simon crean's the other leader after beazley and before foul mouth mark.
brendan nelson for liberal. he was a joke. turnbull is too weak, abbott is too outspoken. i'm a liberal man, but god both parties are a mess. i vote for th policies though, not the mouthpiece. i'd like scott morrison to be given a go though
Yeah there is a hate for Gillard. There was also a hate for Rudd, Beazley, Latham and a few of the other blokes they had. Like you say, media has a massive influenece over things though and thats the angle they play up ie 'Gillard only gets hate for being a woman'. The fact that you argue that point about the media on some issues, yet cannot see it in others is slightly naive. Personally I dislike her policies, the fact that she's a woman is irrelevant.
If you look into it, Latham was constantly criticised for having a huge temper, Rudd for his image, Beazley for being a moron, honestly can't remember the other bloke i'm forgetting Labor had as leader for a little bit so i can't comment on him.
On the flip side, Abbott cops a ton of stick for his views on religion and in the media is portrayed as a woman hating, homophobic man, Howard portrayed as a pathetic old man, Turnbull copped flack after one of his ministers faked an email to implicate rudd and Swan in a car scam, and that other bloke the Libs had wasn't around for long either.
News Ltd go easy on the Conservatives, lol. The Labor party get it really really bad. Murdoch has a massive strong hold and influence.
changing the party's position on immigration will improve their fortunes with Latinos.
40% of the Hispanic vote won by George ]Bush, a supporter of amnesty for illegal immigrants, in 2004. Bush's share of the Hispanic vote is sometimes exaggerated – it was probably not much more than Ronald Reagan's was in 1984 – but it was certainly better than what Romney or John McCain managed.
in 2016 i will be thinking about New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.
i think Marco Rubio can help get the Hispanic vote but as i said my eye is on New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. As for Jeb Bush ....hellll no!!!!! no way in hell do i think ever letting a bush ever get back in the white house is good.
Christie, a first-term governor, was one of the top names tossed around early in the 2012 cycle but he never warmed to the idea of running, saying he was focused on serving New Jersey. he's a Northeast Republican from a blue state, but his fiery temperament is the polar opposite of Romney's.
Christie recently was put in the politically awkward position of praising the opposing party's president when Obama helped New Jersey with disaster relief after Hurricane Sandy. Christie lashed back at critics for suggesting he should put politics above helping his state's storm victims, and he denied Wednesday that he had given Obama an "embrace" over the storm.
Even Obama remarked that he’s a “good man” and a “family man,” though the president disagrees with his “vision of America.”
Democrats, however, have cast him as extreme on a range of issues, most notably Medicare, which his budget plan would eventually convert to a voucher-based system for future beneficiaries. Ryan has countered that Democrats have offered no credible plan for reforming -- and saving -- the entitlement program for seniors.
The outcome of the struggle between the party's establishment and its more conservative Tea Party wing could be critical in deciding what kind of candidate gets the nomination in four years, and there has been talk about the need to broaden the base, given the country's growing Hispanic population and national shifts on social issues, such as gay marriage.
A successful 2012 Republican candidate will need to appeal to Latinos to a greater extent than Romney did in 2012
i dont know what is next for the Republican but i know id love to vote Republican but with the Tea Party wing i just can do it i hope we get a Republican that will shifts on social issues and tax issues . i am not a one issue so if the Republicans can just shift on some issues maybe they can get my vote.
News Ltd go easy on the Conservatives, lol. The Labor party get it really really bad. Murdoch has a massive strong hold and influence.
I know where I stand and that is that.
you are aware that News Limited don't make all the newspapers, nor do they have all the media networks?
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simon crean's the other leader after beazley and before foul mouth mark.
brendan nelson for liberal. he was a joke. turnbull is too weak, abbott is too outspoken. i'm a liberal man, but god both parties are a mess. i vote for th policies though, not the mouthpiece. i'd like scott morrison to be given a go though
I loved Latham, the threat of him finally snapping and punching out someone made things far more interesting.
After Romney's loss, Republicans need a rethink but not reinvention
Many Republicans hope that simply changing the party's position on immigration will improve their fortunes with Latinos. Their evidence is the 40% of the Hispanic vote won by George W Bush, a supporter of amnesty for illegal immigrants, in 2004. Bush's share of the Hispanic vote is sometimes exaggerated – it was probably not much more than Ronald Reagan's was in 1984 – but it was certainly better than what Romney or John McCain managed.
in 2016 i will be thinking about New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.
Other Republican possibilities include former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio.
i think Marco Rubio can help get the Hispanic vote but as i said my eye is on New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. As for Jeb Bush ....hellll no!!!!! no way in hell do i think ever letting a bush ever get back in the white house is good.
Christie, a first-term governor, was one of the top names tossed around early in the 2012 cycle but he never warmed to the idea of running, saying he was focused on serving New Jersey. he's a Northeast Republican from a blue state, but his fiery temperament is the polar opposite of Romney's.
Christie recently was put in the politically awkward position of praising the opposing party's president when Obama helped New Jersey with disaster relief after Hurricane Sandy. Christie lashed back at critics for suggesting he should put politics above helping his state's storm victims, and he denied Wednesday that he had given Obama an "embrace" over the storm.
Even Obama remarked that he’s a “good man” and a “family man,” though the president disagrees with his “vision of America.”
Democrats, however, have cast him as extreme on a range of issues, most notably Medicare, which his budget plan would eventually convert to a voucher-based system for future beneficiaries. Ryan has countered that Democrats have offered no credible plan for reforming -- and saving -- the entitlement program for seniors.
The outcome of the struggle between the party's establishment and its more conservative Tea Party wing could be critical in deciding what kind of candidate gets the nomination in four years, and there has been talk about the need to broaden the base, given the country's growing Hispanic population and national shifts on social issues, such as gay marriage.
A successful 2012 Republican candidate will need to appeal to Latinos to a greater extent than Romney did in 2012
i dont know what is next for the Republican but i know id love to vote Republican but with the Tea Party wing i just can do it i hope we get a Republican that will shifts on social issues and tax issues . i am not a one issue so if the Republicans can just shift on some issues maybe they can get my vote.
[quote=Rush;12240350]you are aware that News Limited don't make all the newspapers, nor do they have all the media networks?
Um, of course. In Queensland though, News Ltd have a massive influence. People treat it as gospel type word up here. Hence why Newman won by a landslide but now people don't even want him in office anymore...it just doesn't add up to me and probably many others. They just believed all the good stuff spouted out about Newman in the Courier Mail, and now they're just massively confused..that is why I don't even bother talking about any form of Australian politics..no one knows what they want. I stand by what I believe in and thats all I have to say.
Um, of course. In Queensland though, News Ltd have a massive influence. People treat it as gospel type word up here. Hence why Newman won by a landslide but now people don't even want him in office anymore...it just doesn't add up to me and probably many others. They just believed all the good stuff spouted out about Newman in the Courier Mail, and now they're just massively confused..that is why I don't even bother talking about any form of Australian politics..no one knows what they want. I stand by what I believe in and thats all I have to say.
In Sydney they own the Telegraph, and they also own the Australian both of which i rarely read. Pretty much the only thing i use the Telegraph for is to read the sports and play supercoach. Sydney Morning Herald is a far better paper.
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I know where I stand and that is that.
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Australia is all over the place..I know my stance and yeah.
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like I said before, I know my views and I'm sticking by them.
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I know where I stand on certain topics, and that is all that matters to me.
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I stand by what I believe in and thats all I have to say.
We get the fucking message. You know where you stand on certain topics. Don't need to mention it every fucking post, i'm not trying to change your stance on anything, i'm not trying to get you to swing to the right, you don;t have to repeat it over and over.
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