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View Poll Results: who you voteing for Obama (D) , Romney (R) or Other
Obama (D) 224 63.46%
Romney (R) 62 17.56%
Other 67 18.98%
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post #1321 of 1735 (permalink) Old 11-07-2012, 09:41 AM
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Any day Karl Rove cries on TV, I'll call it a win.
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I'm just stating a fact. Glad to see you lack reading comprehension though.

It seems that the Ron Paul people really DID cost Romney the election.

In Ohio, Romney lost by 29,897 and in the primaries, Paul received 111,238 votes.

In Florida, Romney lost by 48,262 votes and in the primaries, Paul received 117,100 votes.

In Virginia, Romney lost by 106,726 votes and in the primaries there, Paul received 107,480 votes.

In New Hampshire, Romney lost by 34,918 votes and in the primaries, Paul received 56,848 votes.

Iowa is also a very liberty friendly state as well, and the backlash against Romney there because of how the GOP treated the Paul delegates at the convention might have just cost him in all of these states.

Beware of the backlash against Brother Rand in his attempt in 2016. You know damn well they will make the Libertarians the scapegoat in an attempt to blame everybody but themselves.

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Maybe people just don't want crazy right wing nutters anymore? Romney wasn't exactly a "right wing nutter" but he is/was a sellout, he could've been something different for the Republicans (not that I would have cared due to me being left wing) but Romney had to bend over backwards for the Tea Party people. Obama won, deal with it.

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The Republicans are the engineers of their own unhappiness. Instead of cultivating people like Jon Huntsman in the primaries - I disagree with him on just about everything, but I respect him for knowing his ass from a hole in the ground - they lead with the fringest Tea Party candidates to appeal to the base. When it became perfectly clear those guys would never get the independents and the swing voters, they were left with Romney.

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Maybe people just don't want crazy right wing nutters anymore? Romney wasn't exactly a "right wing nutter" but he is/was a sellout, he could've been something different for the Republicans (not that I would have cared due to me being left wing) but Romney had to bend over backwards for the Tea Party people.
Basically, this. It was even worse in 08, when a sensible Republican like John McCain - who I actually respected before the election - was forced to pander to the worst elements of the conservative party, when he had a track record of being moderate and reaching across the aisle.
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The Republicans are the engineers of their own unhappiness. Instead of cultivating people like Jon Huntsman in the primaries - I disagree with him on just about everything, but I respect him for knowing his ass from a hole in the ground - they lead with the fringest Tea Party candidates to appeal to the base. When it became perfectly clear those guys would never get the independents and the swing voters, they were left with Romney.



Basically, this. It was even worse in 08, when a sensible Republican like John McCain - who I actually respected before the election - was forced to pander to the worst elements of the conservative party, when he had a track record of being moderate and reaching across the aisle.
Yeah dude, exactly..like I could never EVER vote right wing in my life but McCain..I've always had high respect for him, but to me, he always struck me more as an Independent or even Left wing rather than Right wing. It is so messed up how the Tea Party is still in control of some parts of Congress and may be for the next couple of elections.

The Republicans will need to figure out a solution asap to be any chance of winning an election. The Tea Party people need to go from the Republican party. Who knows, maybe in the next election, the Independents will finally stand up.
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Great a moderate Conservative just beat out a more Conservative Republican. Obama is hardly a liberal president, and that's not his fault. Democrats are hardly liberals. I will say that I am more glad Obama beat out Romney because Willard is the last thing we need at the State of the Unions addresses for the next 4 years. That man will put a room full of insomniacs high on Meth, Cocaine, and LSD to sleep.
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Maybe people just don't want crazy right wing nutters anymore? Romney wasn't exactly a "right wing nutter" but he is/was a sellout, he could've been something different for the Republicans (not that I would have cared due to me being left wing) but Romney had to bend over backwards for the Tea Party people. Obama won, deal with it.

Did you even read the numbers I posted? You're acting as if it was a blowout, but when you look at the voting totals for the deciding states, it could have easily gone for Romney and probably would have had he not alienated Libertarian voters with how he and the GOP Establishment treated Ron Paul at the convention. If HALF of the people who voted for Ron Paul in the Ohio GOP primary voted for Romney in the election, he would have won Ohio and the same goes for Florida. He also could have won states like Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado and Virginia, all of which are pretty liberty friendly states, had he not acted the way he did at the GOP convention. If karma exists, then this is a prime example of it, as the man who the GOP treated like dirt ended up costing Romney the election.

The Tea Party actually wasn't totally awful when it first begun, but it was over-taken by the Neo-Conservatives and the Republican establishment, as they started associating the Tea Party with candidates like Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, and Michelle Bachmann, all of whom didn't represent what the Tea Party represented when they first started.

The solution for the Republican party would be to become more Libertarian and less ultra-Conservative, as that turns a hell of a lot of voters off. Rand Paul would be the perfect candidate for the Republicans in 2016, as he doesn't shove his religion down people's throat, is for ending the wars, balancing the budget, is for ending the drug war, and doesn't want the government making decisions when it comes to sensitives issues like marriage. If the Republicans put up someone like Marco Rubio or Paul Ryan in 2016, it will show that they haven't learned a damn thing in the last eight years.

Oh, and McCain was awful. He was more war-hawkish than both Obama and Romney combined. If he was President then we would probably already be in Iran and probably getting ready to send troops to Syria. If I was eligible to vote then, I would have voted for Obama over him. McCain would have tanked America even more.


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Did you even read the numbers I posted? You're acting as if it was a blowout, but when you look at the voting totals for the deciding states, it could have easily gone for Romney and probably would have had he not alienated Libertarian voters with how he and the GOP Establishment treated Ron Paul at the convention. If HALF of the people who voted for Ron Paul in the Ohio GOP primary voted for Romney in the election, he would have won Ohio and the same goes for Florida. He also could have won states like Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado and Virginia, all of which are pretty liberty friendly states, had he not acted the way he did at the GOP convention. If karma exists, then this is a prime example of it, as the man who the GOP treated like dirt ended up costing Romney the election.

The Tea Party actually wasn't totally awful when it first begun, but it was over-taken by the Neo-Conservatives and the Republican establishment, as they started associating the Tea Party with candidates like Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, and Michelle Bachmann, all of whom didn't represent what the Tea Party represented when they first started.

The solution for the Republican party would be to become more Libertarian and less ultra-Conservative, as that turns a hell of a lot of voters off. Rand Paul would be the perfect candidate for the Republicans in 2016, as he doesn't shove his religion down people's throat, is for ending the wars, balancing the budget, is for ending the drug war, and doesn't want the government making decisions when it comes to sensitives issues like marriage. If the Republicans put up someone like Marco Rubio or Paul Ryan in 2016, it will show that they haven't learned a damn thing in the last eight years.

Oh, and McCain was awful. He was more war-hawkish than both Obama and Romney combined. If he was President then we would probably already be in Iran and probably getting ready to send troops to Syria.
You aren't even giving any credit to Barack Obama for pulling off a victory when people like yourself said that Romney would win by a good margin. Go away. You are clearly a troll and an odd fellow, please..just stop trolling, it's quite pathetic.
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You aren't even giving any credit to Barack Obama for pulling off a victory when people like yourself said that Romney would win by a good margin. Go away. You are clearly a troll and an odd fellow, please..just stop trolling, it's quite pathetic.
When did I say Romney would win by a "good" margin outside of the two or so satire posts I did to mock what the Neo-Conservatives? I was saying throughout the final days that this election would be close, which it was, and the difference was the Libertarians that Romney alienated. If Romney didn't alienate Libertarian voters, he would have won Florida, Ohio, New Hampshire, and probably Virginia, which would have won him the Presidency. Romney treating Ron Paul like dirt ended up being his fatal mistake.

Am I denying that Obama won? Absolutely not. However, what I am saying is that Romney would have won had he not pissed off the Libertarians and, as shown by the numbers I posted, I'm right.

Not sure where you get the "troll" accusation from. Outside of the two or so satire posts, I've been saying the same thing throughout the thread.

Have an open mind, brother.

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