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Old 10-05-2012, 10:58 AM   #81 (permalink)
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As for whether she knew is debatable, my point is that it is possible for pregancies to go unnoticed by those around you.

Now Karma101, if she knew she was pregnant then she had, lets say 7 months to think about what to do. 7 months to talk to someone about it. 7 months to cone up with a rational plan that didnt involve murder.

If she truely didnt know she was pregnant then she would have come forward to her parents feeling ill with cramps etc associated with going through labour. That shit is painful, if you didnt know you were pregnant then you'd head straight to hospital in a panic.
Not to mention months of morning sickness, also the fact that a fetus starts to kick around 20-22 weeks, there are many mroe signs as to being pregnant that gives you more than enough time to make a sound choice.
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:12 PM   #82 (permalink)
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As for whether she knew is debatable, my point is that it is possible for pregancies to go unnoticed by those around you.

Now Karma101, if she knew she was pregnant then she had, lets say 7 months to think about what to do. 7 months to talk to someone about it. 7 months to cone up with a rational plan that didnt involve murder.

If she truely didnt know she was pregnant then she would have come forward to her parents feeling ill with cramps etc associated with going through labour. That shit is painful, if you didnt know you were pregnant then you'd head straight to hospital in a panic.
I agree with you totally. As I said before, it's a bunch of bullshit. However, it is virtually impossible to not notice a 100 pound female carrying a 10 pound fetus in her stomach. Anyone can talk about puberty and the growth of a female all they want but the aunts noticed. People in the community noticed, and all the mother did was send her daughter into the bathroom with a pregnancy test that she put something other than her own urine on, which to me indicates that she knew that she was pregnant and not in denial about it. The mother was such a fucking idiot that she not once asked her to daughter to lift her shirt or have her looked at by a medical professional solely out of suspicion?

When you talk about people not knowing that they are pregnant and all of a sudden giving birth, you are likely talking about fully grown women who are likely to be overweight or teenagers in denial. Denial doesn't hide the physical changes in a females body. As stated previously, she wasn't in denial. She knew it. The mother was in denial. I think she knew it, too.

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Old 10-05-2012, 12:17 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Felt some creepy goosebumps reading the news..sick and totally fucked up.
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Old 10-05-2012, 05:20 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Now Karma101, if she knew she was pregnant then she had, lets say 7 months to think about what to do. 7 months to talk to someone about it. 7 months to cone up with a rational plan that didnt involve murder.
But it's possible that she is in a certain mindset where she is in denial over the gravity of the situation until it is upon her especially at 14 and she probably had a panic attack and did this, at least that's my theory. I'm pretty sure she would have known she was pregnant, not disagreeing with that.
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This bitch needs to go to Maury.

Seriously, though, what a fucking piece of shit.
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But it's possible that she is in a certain mindset where she is in denial over the gravity of the situation until it is upon her especially at 14 and she probably had a panic attack and did this, at least that's my theory. I'm pretty sure she would have known she was pregnant, not disagreeing with that.
well then, she had ~7 months to act which makes it hard to argue that it was done in the "spur of the moment" as you said.
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You seem pretty ignorant, you have no idea about the circumstances surrounding the event and you say 'she likely wasn't' raped even though she very well could've been.

An attempt to understand what is actually going on is much better than just simply condemning somebody, always. I probably wouldn't be doing that if everybody wasn't so obsessed with the death penalty, she should be punished because she has done something terribly wrong but at only 14 she definitely deserves a second chance.
I know that she killed a baby. that's a FACT. what you're doing is making assumptions because you don't seem to want to accept that some people can be this deranged.

and what does being raped have to do with this, if she was in fact raped? Why not just have an abortion. Murdering the baby in the way she did is just a horrifying crime that shouldn't just be overlooked if she was raped.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:53 AM   #88 (permalink)
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well then, she had ~7 months to act which makes it hard to argue that it was done in the "spur of the moment" as you said.
I already explained my theory involving that part though.

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I know that she killed a baby. that's a FACT. what you're doing is making assumptions because you don't seem to want to accept that some people can be this deranged.

and what does being raped have to do with this, if she was in fact raped? Why not just have an abortion. Murdering the baby in the way she did is just a horrifying crime that shouldn't just be overlooked if she was raped.
Whatever, just trying to understand the situation there's not much more I can say to you.
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Eh, it should be her choice. It isn't like she tried to get pregnant. I'm surprised she did this though, isn't being a teen parent grounds for a television deal nowadays?
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Eh, it should be her choice. It isn't like she tried to get pregnant. I'm surprised she did this though, isn't being a teen parent grounds for a television deal nowadays?
trust you to condone this. Beat your wife, choke out your kid, what don't you think is tolerable?
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