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Pol93 09-28-2012 08:37 PM

I hate alcohol
 
Before I start, this isn't a CM Punk heel "I'm straight edge and better than you" promo. These are opinions and thoughts I have developed through real-life experiences.

I used to binge-drink, and have a great time. Knock back lots of vodka, go into a nightclub and have a "good time". The night would start with meeting people who also go to the same club, embracing in a drunken hug etc. Then we'd go to the bar together and get more drinks, repeated several times over. Eventually, the night descends to utter stupidity. The down period after the initial high, the vomitting, the blackouts, and the agonising hangover the next morning. Why, other than seeking social acceptance, do people object themselves to this? Using logical, clear reasons, what is the purpose?

If you "can't" have a good time without it, that is when you should avoid it all costs. I cannot stand when people show no personality until drunk. People who reply with grunts or lacking-in-confidence mumbles when sober, only to then sway around shouting loudly when drunk as if they're the heart and soul of the party. It's sad. If you're using alcohol as a crutch, or to give you more confidence, that is when you desparately need to stop. Just put in a little effort, speak to people, develop a personality you are comfortable with to show to others. If you change completely from sobriety to drunkeness, then how you're acting when you're drunk is not an actual personality. It's essentially lying to yourself, and creating a vicious cycle. Each time makes you depend on the alcohol more and more, and gives you less and less confidence in displaying your real personality. How many times have you seen drunken people make a complete asshole of themselves, and not in the funny way? Becoming aggressive and starting fights, going on and on and on about something that nobody else cares about, or just talking incessantly about getting more alcohol, and refusing to accept that they have drank more than enough? Pointless, utterly pointless behaviour.

Of course not everybody who drinks does it due to a lack of personality. Many people are out-going and confident, and also like to get drunk. Why though? I understand the social acceptance that comes with drinking, but if you are truly confident with yourself, then you should realise that you have no genuine, logical reason to get drunk. If you can have a good time without it, then continue to do so.

Also, not everybody who drinks makes a complete moron of themselves. Some people can drink in moderation, and control themselves. But- why drink in moderation? Again, I understand the social acceptance aspect to it. However, if you're not drinking to get steaming drunk, you're surely better off not drinking at all. It adds nothing to your personality, it costs a lot of money, and has numerous harmful affects on your health.

People have always drank, I'm not aiming for some cliched "our generation is falling apart!" nonesense. But with the knowledge of negative side-effects of excessive consumption of alcohol available to everybody, I can't think of any logical reason why people choose to drink so much. It is not "needed" for a good time, and is essentially used as a crutch by many people to create a personality they are not confident enough to display when sober.

I'm interested in hearing what others have to say, on both sides of the argument.

Warren Zevon 09-28-2012 08:55 PM

Re: I hate alcohol
 
As with most things in life, I feel that it is all in how you go about it. I will admit that I used to drink entirely too much before I got married and settled down, but I never had a drinking problem. I keep a full liquor cabinet at all times and drink nearly daily, but rarely to the point of inebriation.

I've been collecting single malt scotch for several years now, and I view it as a learning experience. The same way that fine cuisine connoisseurs may learn more about food through extensive tasting, through trying differing styles of scotch whisky I am able to discern between very subtle differences and identify certain flavor profiles that most people would not pick up on.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, after a particularly bad day I may go for a 40 of malt liquor or a $5 plastic bottle of bottom shelf vodka, but I let it do no more damage to me than all overconsumption will do. I'm all for "drinking my sorrows away", as they say, but when you get to the point of drinking to mask said sorrows, that is when you've got a problem. I've found that alcohol is a good way to confront your emotions as it tends to break down barriers and I can see why so many people have a problem quitting.

I had a rough patch after I left the service, going out and drinking, picking fights, etc. and I would never let myself get controlled by alcohol now that I've got obligations.

reDREDD 09-28-2012 08:58 PM

Re: I hate alcohol
 
enjoy drinking in moderation socially, not a fan of going too far. dunno why i do it, but you can never turn down a beer during a beer during a game of football

might have an occasional beer on my own too

Karma101 09-29-2012 04:43 AM

Re: I hate alcohol
 
Yeh I don't understand what the point is in getting drunk either, doesn't sound that fun I gotta be honest. I don't like drinking alcohol at all though so my opinion is probably invalid.

Hazzard 09-29-2012 04:46 AM

Re: I hate alcohol
 
I tend to drink too much in social situations because I'm so socially awkward around people that alcohol is the only way to even come out of my shell a little bit, I simply lack the social skills required to stand and hold a conversation with someone sober. I also find parties and bars quite boring unless I'm too drunk to know what's going on, of course there are side effects but I drink rarely enough that it becomes a problem.

Rush 09-29-2012 05:05 AM

Re: I hate alcohol
 
recently went 5 months without alchohol. Mostly b/c i hated waking up in random places around the area i live and i'd drink to excess far too often. Since going back to drinking its been fine.

Patrick Bateman 09-29-2012 05:07 AM

Re: I hate alcohol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pol93 (Post 12073244)
Before I start, this isn't a CM Punk heel "I'm straight edge and better than you" promo. These are opinions and thoughts I have developed through real-life experiences.

I used to binge-drink, and have a great time. Knock back lots of vodka, go into a nightclub and have a "good time". The night would start with meeting people who also go to the same club, embracing in a drunken hug etc. Then we'd go to the bar together and get more drinks, repeated several times over. Eventually, the night descends to utter stupidity. The down period after the initial high, the vomitting, the blackouts, and the agonising hangover the next morning. Why, other than seeking social acceptance, do people object themselves to this? Using logical, clear reasons, what is the purpose?

If you "can't" have a good time without it, that is when you should avoid it all costs. I cannot stand when people show no personality until drunk. People who reply with grunts or lacking-in-confidence mumbles when sober, only to then sway around shouting loudly when drunk as if they're the heart and sould of the party. It's sad. If you're using alcohol as a crutch, or to give you more confidence, that is when you desparately need to stop. Just put in a little effort, speak to people, develop a personality you are comfortable with to show to others. If you change completely from sobriety to drunkeness, then how you're acting when you're drunk is not an actual personality. It's essentially lying to yourself, and creating a vicious cycle. Each time makes you depend on the alcohol more and more, and gives you less and less confidence in displaying your real personality. How many times have you seen drunken people make a complete asshole of themselves, and not in the funny way? Becoming aggressive and starting fights, going on and on and on about something that nobody else cares about, or just talking incessantly about getting more alcohol, and refusing to accept that they have drank more than enough? Pointless, utterly pointless behaviour.

Of course not everybody who drinks does it due to a lack of personality. Many people are out-going and confident, and also like to get drunk. Why though? I understand the social acceptance that comes with drinking, but if you are truly confident with yourself, then you should realise that you have no genuine, logical reason to get drunk. If you can have a good time without it, then continue to do so.

Also, not everybody who drinks makes a complete moron of themselves. Some people can drink in moderation, and control themselves. But- why drink in moderation? Again, I understand the social acceptance aspect to it. However, if you're not drinking to get steaming drunk, you're surely better off not drinking at all. It adds nothing to your personality, it costs a lot of money, and has numerous harmful affects of your health.

People have always drank, I'm not aiming for some cliched "our generation is falling apart!" nonesense. But with the knowledge of negative side-effects of excessive consumption of alcohol available to everybody, I can't think of any logical reason why people choose to drink so much. It is not "needed" for a good time, and is essentially used as a crutch by many people to create a personality they are not confident enough to display when sober.

I'm interested in hearing what others have to say, on both sides of the argument.

Pol93, how thought provoking of you.

I actually drink alot of alcohol. But, hey, give me a break! I'm a child of divorce.

Blake"Pure"Holyman 09-29-2012 05:16 AM

Re: I hate alcohol
 
Smoke weed than. No vommits and larger than life persona.

Swood 09-29-2012 05:23 AM

Re: I hate alcohol
 
I might drink alcohol, if it didn't taste like something that came directly from the sewers. Seriously, everything its added to just gets disgustingly poisoned. Unless my tastebuds alter quite a bit, I'll probably never go near the stuff when I'm allowed to buy it, anyway.

Pol93 09-29-2012 05:31 AM

Re: I hate alcohol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hazzard (Post 12074118)
I tend to drink too much in social situations because I'm so socially awkward around people that alcohol is the only way to even come out of my shell a little bit, I simply lack the social skills required to stand and hold a conversation with someone sober. I also find parties and bars quite boring unless I'm too drunk to know what's going on, of course there are side effects but I drink rarely enough that it becomes a problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevolverSnake (Post 12074140)
Pol93, how thought provoking of you.

I actually drink alot of alcohol. But, hey, give me a break! I'm a child of divorce.

I can understand that, but do you feel that the more you've drank alcohol, the more dependant you've became to use it to help get you through? In which case, going through an initial difficult time of giving up using alcohol may be more benficial in the long-term.


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