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post #61 of 171 (permalink) Old 09-16-2012, 11:43 AM
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Re: Innocence of Muslims

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Let the muslims rage out its only showing the entire world that islam has made these muslims become savage barbaric morons who are willing to kill innocents over their disgusting cult.Islam is a disgusting cult of hate and fear and order,Trust the atheist ex muslim here folks islam's full of shit.

Free speech will NOT be silenced,People make fun of chirstians and hindus and atheists and everybody and nobody does anything but when its muslims they rage out and kill innocents? Fuck that we're not giving ANYBODY special treatment and we'll draw and make fun of your stupid prophet all we want.Your religion forbids you from insulting mo man,Thats fine but don't force your stupid rules on others people can say whatever the fuck they want to say.Those idiots from Westboro Baptist church talk allot of hate speech against dead people from 9/11 or homosexuals and I'm STILL against silencing them even though I'm an atheist who hates what they say,Free speech is free speech and it will NEVER hurt people physically therefore it has every right to exist.If free speech is silenced then we'd be a madhouse like Iran or North Korea.People can say whatever and people can just ignore it,Its that damn simple.
Agreed.

I'm not saying all Muslims are crazy murdering individual that would kill in the name of Allah, but there seems to be a large portion of them like this in Islamic countries, or at least the ones in power in these countries.

I find it funny how Al Qaeda is in this holy war with what they believe to be the West, or Christians, but in reality they are in a war with red necks. This is literally a war between idiots that the whole world has unfortunately been dragged into.

Let me pose a question, if Islam did not exist, heck I'll take it one step further, if religion, all kinds, did not exist, would there be peace? I think so

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Let me pose a question, if Islam did not exist, heck I'll take it one step further, if religion, all kinds, did not exist, would there be peace? I think so
There wouldn't be peace. Money and power will always corrupt people.

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Let me pose a question, if Islam did not exist, heck I'll take it one step further, if religion, all kinds, did not exist, would there be peace? I think so
Doubt it. People will always look for trouble.

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Let me pose a question, if Islam did not exist, heck I'll take it one step further, if religion, all kinds, did not exist, would there be peace? I think so
No, that's just bullshit atheists love to spew. The "violence because of religion" thing is blown way out of proportion. Corruption is a thing that will always be around, whether it's caused by hunger for power or money. Religion is just used as scapegoat most of the time. And I guess all the cannibals, necrophiliacs, serial killers, hoodlums and bank robbers that fly under the radar every time something like that happens must be doing that because of religion, right?
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The film's only purpose was to wind up Muslims but violence should never be used in this type of situation. People insult religions every time, it doesn't give you the right to kill them.
People bag on Christianity continually but it seems the radical sections of the Muslim population, which is not the majority, get a pass as if they're expected to resort to violence at the slightest infringement on Islam.

It's the focus of the adherents of any religion to represent the tenets of their faith as best as possible & to show their faith as worthy for others to follow. These acts put an undue amount of negative light on an entire faith due to the actions of a relative few.



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It is horrible that (some not all) people in the Middle East are behaving this way. Still I can't help but wanting to beat the creator of that video with a baseball bat. We know what happened with the Danish cartoon incident. What did he think would be the reaction to a derogatory video like this? No reason to just incite trouble. Maybe he thought that it wouldn't get so much press, but it was still a dumbass move and I blame him as much as anyone else. Free speech is a privilege. Don't fuck around with it and make some crap just to hurt people.

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That last parts kind of already happening in Britain with sharia imposed areas & the eastern europeans doing whatever the fuck they want.
oh im deeply sorry for that

i'll bring it up with them during the next international muslims meeting next week and tell them to cut that shit out

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Agreed.

I'm not saying all Muslims are crazy murdering individual that would kill in the name of Allah, but there seems to be a large portion of them like this in Islamic countries, or at least the ones in power in these countries.

I find it funny how Al Qaeda is in this holy war with what they believe to be the West, or Christians, but in reality they are in a war with red necks. This is literally a war between idiots that the whole world has unfortunately been dragged into.

Let me pose a question, if Islam did not exist, heck I'll take it one step further, if religion, all kinds, did not exist, would there be peace? I think so
name them.

You make a statement, back it up. prove its a large majority and prove its the guys incharge


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Re: Innocence of Muslims

I'm late joining this discourse and there have been a lot of notable points raised on all sides.

Rather than try to address so many things already raised I'll start with something fresh. Sunday is politics day on TV and there is plenty of discussion on foreign policy this week (obviously). The one thing I'd like to address is how any pundit/citizen thinking that it would be a good idea to pull foreign aid from nations expressing anti-American sentiment are mildly delusional.

At this point those entities are tied up with American funding (like a political welfare) and chaos would likely follow. Nations would no longer have any reason to operate in a manner where American interests played any part. Rebels/protesters/civilians may not fully comprehend the ramifications of losing this funding/aid, they only feel they're tired of living under the thumb.


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People bag on Christianity continually but it seems the radical sections of the Muslim population, which is not the majority, get a pass as if they're expected to resort to violence at the slightest infringement on Islam.

It's the focus of the adherents of any religion to represent the tenets of their faith as best as possible & to show their faith as worthy for others to follow. These acts put an undue amount of negative light on an entire faith due to the actions of a relative few.
Tbh, Some action is warranted, granted not violence but some sort of action. People don't bag on muslim extremists because they can empathize with the middle east. The U.S supports tyrannical governments in the middle east, drops drones in the middle east just cause they feel like it, take their resources and then try to impose their culture and beliefs on them. Obviously some people are gonna react excessively.

Also, it's all relative. Someone made an excellent post about how Islam is a couple hundred years younger than Christianity and people shouldn't forget that two or three hundred years ago extremist Christians were holding those witch trials and killing any non Christians. It seems to be a pattern.
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