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Old 09-24-2012, 02:27 AM   #131 (permalink)
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Its not cool..Any video that incites hate of a race or religion isn't cool at all. It wasn't right when the Nazis did it but its ok now because they can hide under the little freedom of speech banner. Fuck off, hate is hate and its wrong however its done.
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:28 AM   #132 (permalink)
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Its not cool..Any video that incites hate of a race or religion isn't cool at all. It wasn't right when the Nazis did it but its ok now because they can hide under the little freedom of speech banner. Fuck off, hate is hate and its wrong however its done.
Oh yea I'm sure the video killed 6 million people right?
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:32 AM   #133 (permalink)
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Oh yea I'm sure the video killed 6 million people right?
Thats exactly how people felt when guys like Hitler started. Its only a speech or a book or propoganda how can that affect history???

Blind hatred towards Muslim people is becoming the new normal and its scary shit.
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:37 AM   #134 (permalink)
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I'm with Chamred1, there is no diffrince, look at how many pepole WANT US to whipe them out, make it ilegal\force them to give up their belifes.

We are no better then any others in that way, if this keeps up there will be a war and it will be bad, whats funny is most of it is becuse of the NON relijous pepole this time, you know the guys that always say going to war becuse of relijion is the main cause of wars?

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Old 09-24-2012, 06:46 AM   #135 (permalink)
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So now it's become unacceptable to take these sorts of shots on religion since someone targeted Islam but there's no outcry from the constant barrage of hate & derision that's leveled at Christianity? The emergence of Islam as a sacred cow just further incites anger because what that equates to is "Don't speak ill of Islamic beliefs lest we anger a volatile minority of the Muslim populace." So you create an atmosphere where you it's not an even field & only to avoid having someone translate disrespect into acts of violence.

You're enabling violent idiocy on a global scale & NO adherent of any religion should get a free pass based on their temperament.
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So now it's become unacceptable to take these sorts of shots on religion since someone targeted Islam but there's no outcry from the constant barrage of hate & derision that's leveled at Christianity? The emergence of Islam as a sacred cow just further incites anger because what that equates to is "Don't speak ill of Islamic beliefs lest we anger a volatile minority of the Muslim populace." So you create an atmosphere where you it's not an even field & only to avoid having someone translate disrespect into acts of violence.

You're enabling violent idiocy on a global scale & NO adherent of any religion should get a free pass based on their temperament.
Sorry but thats bullsit spin doctoring. Hate propaganda is hate propaganda and shouldnt be accepted in any religion.

Violent idiocy on a global scale are the morons who vehemently support this crap as free speech when it was made with the specific purpose to incite.

I don't think there should be violent outbursts from anyone but every religion will have there corner of crazies that will get violent that includes catholics, Christians and jews as well as Muslims.

We live in a society that cannot tell Taliban from Muslim and you can trust me when I say no one hates the Taliban more than most averages Muslims.
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Agree with charmed1. That video was made to offend and the makers need to know that they are partly responsible for all the violence. Christianity is filled with art and images of its history but Islam doesn't do that. Is it really so difficult to respect a religion enough to not cross that line? Islam is made fun of by every comic source out there and you don't get violence over all that.

It is a massive overreaction by the idiot Muslim minority, but is it really too difficult to respect that part of their religion? It wasn't even something that was artistically significant. Just trash made to create problems. Not something that should be allowed to hide behind freedom of speech excuses.
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This endangered species, special protection nonsense for one religion based on the thin skinned nature of a minority of it's adherents is completely & utterly moronic at worst & mentally flaccid at best. The fact that anyone that even pretends to be a student of history or even modern history espouses something so pathetic as a deterrent for violence should consider another hobby. It doesn't even work with children; kid gets picked on, which leads to tears / tantrums & the solution is to tell everyone else to leave him alone. Result? The pressure increases, the taunts become even more pointed, & the level of animosity rises. The correct approach is for the object of ridicule to develop social skills sufficient to survive the verbal onslaught, you can't protect someone from the world. Something about the heat & staying out of the kitchen.

Yes, because the path to religious equality lies in treating one sect with kid gloves & shielding them from the same vitriol received by any others. Makes so much sense.
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It is a totally different culture in that part of the world and expecting them to think the way we do is unreasonable. That is not going to happen with this generation of Muslims at least and there will always be a part of the Muslim population that is going to very sensitive to minor insults. The answer isn't to keep goading them to violence by insulting and showing disrespect to their beliefs.

This always happens when some idiots decide to get all controversial and try to make a name for themselves by crossing lines which piss the Islamic world off. And guess what? Our people who are in that part of the world end up getting hurt. And our reaction is to say why can't the Muslims just grow up? If we can take insults why can't they? I'm sorry but both sides are acting like children.
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It is a totally different culture in that part of the world and expecting them to think the way we do is unreasonable. That is not going to happen with this generation of Muslims at least and there will always be a part of the Muslim population that is going to very sensitive to minor insults. The answer isn't to keep goading them to violence by insulting and showing disrespect to their beliefs.

This always happens when some idiots decide to get all controversial and try to make a name for themselves by crossing lines which piss the Islamic world off. And guess what? Our people who are in that part of the world end up getting hurt. And our reaction is to say why can't the Muslims just grow up? If we can take insults why can't they? I'm sorry but both sides are acting like children.
Exactly. And expecting Western societies to fake respect towards Islam and curb our own free speech to satisfy the demands of a few cry baby extremist Muslims is unreasonable. Myself, I make it a point not to attack the general Muslim population. I attack Islam and the fundamentalists. I find it a barbaric, hateful religion just like Christianity. If me criticizing Islam is considered "insensitive" than tough shit. I know not every part of the world doesn't have free speech. In many Muslim countries, blasphemy is a crime. In fact, look at this.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/push-to-...922-26dlu.html

While I'm doubtful this will ever pass, it's scary to think that criticism of any religion, even well meaning and thoughtful criticism, could be outlawed because some extreme Theists don't want their feelings hurt. Human rights are about humans. I hear shit from Theists and people on the other side of the political aisle that I don't like and I don't throw a tantrum and demand their criticisms be outlawed. Free speech trumps religious sensitivities. I'm not talking about speech that targets Muslims for violence. No, that is hate speech. But criticizing Islam and mocking their prophet isn't "hate" speech although one can hate Islam.

I love Muslims but hate Islam and what it can do to otherwise peaceful people. Get over it.
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