[ChainGangRed]

I don't think it really matters who will win because I think all the policies with be the same, and at the very least whoever wins will uphold the crony capitalism. I don't really think either candidate or the Republican/Democratic Party is better for the country because they are both crony capitalist parties. Don't really have a third party I can support either because I have very specific opinions which are only really popular in countries with Peasant Parties. I think the whole election process tends to hurt democracy more than help it because it puts focus on individual people or collective groups instead of trying to come together as local communities to fix our problems and actually having the power to do so instead of dealing with tons of bureaucratic barriers.

[Glass Shatters]

Originally Posted by ChainGangRed

I don't think it really matters who will win because I think all the policies with be the same, and at the very least whoever wins will uphold the crony capitalism. I don't really think either candidate or the Republican/Democratic Party is better for the country because they are both crony capitalist parties. Don't really have a third party I can support either because I have very specific opinions which are only really popular in countries with Peasant Parties. I think the whole election process tends to hurt democracy more than help it because it puts focus on individual people or collective groups instead of trying to come together as local communities to fix our problems and actually having the power to do so instead of dealing with tons of bureaucratic barriers.

What an excellent post. We have arrived at a day and age where democracy consists of casting a vote for the lesser of the two evils - neither of which have the best interest of the country and current/future generations in mind.

[JOAL.com]

so then what are you brilliant minds proposing

i hope its something bold and exciting, like posting on the internet about it. or better yet, maybe making a youtube video!

[Glass Shatters]

Originally Posted by Redead

so then what are you brilliant minds proposing

i hope its something bold and exciting, like posting on the internet about it. or better yet, maybe making a youtube video!

We're not proposing anything, and are not required to do so.

Therefore, you can take your tongue-in-cheek posts about activism on a discussion forum and find something to do with them. I was merely commenting on someone who shared the same thoughts as I do.

Still waiting for my official government statistic backing of your healthcare claim, by the way.

[ChainGangRed]

Originally Posted by Redead

so then what are you brilliant minds proposing

i hope its something bold and exciting, like posting on the internet about it. or better yet, maybe making a youtube video!

Through charitable actions and the way I spend my money. Volunteering and supporting local businesses I believe is a good start for some actual grassroots change. I tend to agree with Alexis de Tocqueville in saying that volunteerism and community is needed to maintain political freedom, otherwise politicians take power and it all turns communities against each other. I don't really have hope for the future of our country though because people don't know how to maintain political freedom in a productive manner these days and Americans hate violence so I highly doubt they'll use that to maintain it either.

To me democracy is more about political freedom than voting. Voting tends to take away political freedom in my opinion, though the purpose of it was to make sure there were always leaders that kept it.

[GOON The Legend]

An Obama victory would probably be better for the nation in the long run imo. If Romney wins, the Republicans will just basically say "hey, our neoconservative ways our working" and won't change a damn thing. Maybe if Romney is obliterated in November they might just finally understand that the GOP, in its current, neoconservative form, is dying and they might change their ways, leading to someone like Rand Paul winning the nomination in 2016 (since people like Rubio, Christie, and Ryan are not different at all from Romney and the rest of the neoconservatives that the GOP has pegged the "chosen ones" to run in 2016).

Who am I kidding though? We're dealing with stubborn neoconservatives here.

[scrilla]

lol you can say they're capitalist cronies, but one of them wants to go to war with Iran and Russia and the other doesn't. i'd say that's p. big difference.

[GOON The Legend]

Obama is smart enough to not try and get into a war with Russia. Still p. sure that he wouldn't mind getting into a war with Iran though. Romney is just more open with it in an attempt to APPEAL TO THE NEOCONSERVATIVES~!

With Obama, we probably have about a 10% chance of not getting into a war with Iran. Under Romney though, we'd invade as soon as Netanyahu says "go." I'm fully convinced neoconservatives care more about the well being of Israel than they do about the American people.

[scrilla]

the jews own the banks. gotta keep em happy.

[GOON The Legend]