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My favorite subject on conspiracy theories is Marilyn Monroe.

It's a long read but it's a great one so if you have some time:

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Suicide


This is the official cause of death and probably the most widely believed. She had tried it four times previously and she clearly had significant mood swings.

The problem with this theory is that too many forensic facts are at odds with it, unless one can imagine Marilyn making up a barbiturate enema and administering it to herself. Quite a number of forensic experts have discarded the suicide theory as inconsistent with the facts.

Another problem with the suicide theory is that she was in good spirits at the time of her death and had been making plans for future events and movies, and if Spoto is correct, her remarriage to Joe DiMaggio.

Accident


If, in fact, Marilyn died from a rectally-administered barbiturate enema, the question is who prepared and administered it. It is not out of the realm of possibility that the overdose was accidental.

Spoto makes a very persuasive case for accidental death. Dr. Greenson had been working with Dr. Hyman Engelberg to wean Marilyn off Nembutal, substituting instead chloral hydrate to help her sleep. Milton Rudin claimed that Greenson said something very important the night of Marilyn's death: " God damn it! Hy gave her a prescription I didn't know about!"

Dr. Engelberg was having serious marital problems and obviously didn't communicate well with Greenson on Marilyn's prescriptions. Spoto suggests that Greenson would not have given Marilyn a heavy dose of chloral hydrate the evening of her death if he had realized that Marilyn had been taking Nembutal capsules throughout the day. Spoto further suggests that after an exhausting full day with Marilyn that he arranged for Marilyn to have a chloral hydrate enema so that she would sleep through the night.

Chloral hydrate significantly slows down the metabolism of Nembutal, but Greenson did not know that she had been taking Nembutal and Marilyn did not realize that Nembutal and chloral hydrate interacted adversely or she probably would have admitted to Greenson that she had taken Nembutals.

If Spoto's theory is correct, then who administered the enema? Spoto believes that it had to be Eunice Murray, who, like Greenson, had no inkling that the sedative enema would be fatal.

Any doctor might be loath to admit to himself or others that he had made such a significant mistake in such a high-profile patient, especially since Marilyn appeared drugged during the afternoon. Also, if Eunice was the person who administered the enema, it would be natural for her to try to protect herself and Dr. Greenson by pretending that no such procedure was given to Marilyn.

Murder


Everyone loves a conspiracy. It is so much more exciting than accidental death or suicide. The celebrity status of the main characters in this drama lends itself heavily towards the romance of conspiracy. Look at the cottage industry that John F. Kennedys assassination has generated.

Its important to distinguish the cover-up of embarrassing information by powerful people from the commitment of a crime to eliminate people who can potentially create embarrassment.

There are a number of credible people who claim that Marilyn Monroe had affairs with one or both Kennedy brothers. John Kennedy, at least, was known to indulge himself in extramarital adventures. So, it is not at all implausible that President Kennedy availed himself of the charms of one of the sexiest and most attractive women of that era. That Robert Kennedy was so inclined is not nearly as clear.

According to Peter Lawford, Marilyns unrealistic notions about becoming First Lady caused her to embarrass herself with both Kennedy brothers. Her letters and telephone calls to them had become both tiresome and very risky. It was one thing to cavort with anonymous girls, but quite another to be involved with a celebrity sex symbol like Marilyn Monroe. There was every good reason for JFK and RFK to break off the relationship with Marilyn permanently.

What allegedly became so troublesome was Marilyns supposed rage at JFKs rejection of her and the fear that she was able to strike in both brothers. Donald Wolfe sums it up: Marilyn Monroe was in a position to bring down the presidency. She was cognizant of Jack Kennedys marital infidelities and other private matters. She had his notes and letters and was privy to Kennedys involvement with Sam Giancana. That the Kennedy brothers had discussed national security matters with the film star added to an astonishing array of indiscretions.

It is not out of the realm of possibility that Robert Kennedy was the man appointed by his brother to deliver the rejection to Marilyn personally. Its not the kind of thing that one writes in a letter and its unlikely that JFK was anxious to deliver the message himself.

Did Robert Kennedy bring Marilyn the news of his brothers desire to break off his relationship on the night Marilyn died? After all, there are some witnesses, including a cop, who place Robert Kennedy near the scene that night. This information may never be known with any certainty, but if Robert Kennedy did somehow make an unannounced visit to Marilyn Monroe on the night of August 4, then it provides unexpected motivation for the suicide theory. That is, while Marilyn may have been in good spirits that day and evening, a visit by Robert Kennedy shattering her notions about an enduring relationship with JFK could have abruptly changed her mood.

Was there an attempt on the part of the government to cover up John Kennedys indiscretions with Marilyn Monroe? It would be very surprising indeed if there were not such an attempt.

The alleged cover-up was believed to have extended beyond the phone records and police evidence found at the scene. Shortly after his phone call to the Naars before 11 p.m. on the night of Marilyns death, it is believed that Peter Lawford and Pat Newcomb went to Marilyns house. Purportedly in a state of panic, Lawford called brother-in-law Bobby Kennedy and explained what had occurred.

However, destroying phone records and personal journals and scraps of paper are not in the same league with murder.

To suggest, as some authors, have that Robert Kennedy was somehow complicit in the murder of Marilyn Monroe is to be ignorant of the character and integrity of the Attorney General. While mystery surrounds the death of Marilyn Monroe, mystery does not shroud the character of Robert Kennedy. Robert Kennedy had a very fixed moral compass which was repeatedly documented in his crusade against organized crime.

Was Marilyn murdered by the Mafia, eager to avenge itself on the Kennedys for Roberts strike against them and expose the Kennedys philandering to the American public? The motive was probably there but with what is known about the individuals present in Marilyns home on the night of August 4, 1962, it makes a mob hit with a rectal enema seem a bit unlikely and almost absurd.

The actual events that surrounded Marilyns death will probably never be known. What was known for certain was that a living legend mysteriously died before her time, in a mist of confusion, scandal and uncertainty.

Following the autopsy, Marilyns body was released to her family. Marilyns mother, who was institutionalized, did not take custody of the body. Instead, Joe DiMaggio claimed her remains and arranged a small and quiet funeral for the woman he continued to love up until her death. Finally on August 8, 1962, she was laid to rest in Los Angeles Westwood Memorial Park in the Corridor of Memories. On that day, thousands lined the streets and grieved for their icon and the worlds movie legend, Marilyn Monroe.
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Something tells me I need to stay as far away as I possibly can from this MJ theory.
Believe me, there are so many more weird events surrounding his "death" that you just can't ignore.
That's why we call these conspiracy theories. There are things that are very strange but we can not be sure if true or not. The thing is though, we can't ignore these things.

Here is another theory on MJ faking his death:
This might sound strange at first but when you think about it, it's more than a coincidence.
MJ is still alive but performing under a different stage name. The stage name that he is currently performing under is Jason Malachi. If you type him up on google, every page refers him to MJ. on youtube listen to his songs and he sounds exactly like MJ. The only difference in the voice is that it has been manipulated to not give it away so easily. This Jason malachi released songs just a few months after the "death" of MJ.


Don't be fooled by the picture of Jason Malachi, these pics are just to swerve us from thinking it really is MJ.

Malachi = Michael with "E" missing
Jason = Jackson with "CK" missing


Here is one of his songs:




I could be completely wrong but this is what I and many others think.


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Believe me, there are so many more weird events surrounding his "death" that you just can't ignore.
That's why we call these conspiracy theories. There are things that are very strange but we can not be sure if true or not. The thing is though, we can't ignore these things.

Here is another theory on MJ faking his death:
This might sound strange at first but when you think about it, it's more than a coincidence.
MJ is still alive but performing under a different stage name. The stage name that he is currently performing under is Jason Malachi. If you type him up on google, every page refers him to MJ. on youtube listen to his songs and he sounds exactly like MJ. The only difference in the voice is that it has been manipulated to not give it away so easily. This Jason malachi released songs just a few months after the "death" of MJ.


Don't be fooled by the picture of Jason Malachi, these pics are just to swerve us from thinking it really is MJ.

Malachi = Michael with "E" missing
Jason = Jackson with "CK" missing


Here is one of his songs:




I could be completely wrong but this is what I and many others think.



Pretending that this dude is really MJ, this tweet is utterly hilarious (from Jason's twitter account, in which the guy seems really angry in most of his tweets):

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i aint been doing music for while because, life has a funny way of doing things.
LOL CUZ YOU'VE BEEN DEAD THE PAST FEW YEARS, MJ
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Pretending that this dude is really MJ, this tweet is utterly hilarious (from Jason's twitter account, in which the guy seems really angry in most of his tweets):



LOL CUZ YOU'VE BEEN DEAD THE PAST FEW YEARS, MJ
"I aint Been doing Music in a while, because life has a funny way of doing things"

What I think this tweet means:

This is just an excuse. This tweet is saying that things got in my way in life and that's why I started my career later than expected. this "Jason Malachi" hadn't released songs before 2009 because there is no Jason Malachi and "Jason Malachi" is Michael Jackson himself. His name being almost the same as Michael Jackson's is definitely not a coincidence.

Guys if you don't believe this theory then can you please explain these following questions:

How is his name almost Identical to MJ's?
How does he sound exactly lile MJ?
Why is it when I type his name on Google and Youtube, I always get refereed back to MJ?
Why was his first song released just a few months after MJ's death?

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This video that I found shows a "lady" that many people believe is Michael Jackson in disguise at his own public memorial that was held at the staples Centre a few days after his "death"

Till this day this "lady" is yet to be identified!
"She" has an Adam's apple, ADAM'S APPLE!!!!
This has not been manipulated in any way, if you don't believe me then go re watch the memorial and you will see this "lady" several times.

I told you I could go on and on and on with strange things surrounding his "death"
If anyone thinks this is stupid then please go right ahead and reply explaining why you think it is!
This might seem impossible for him to fake his death, but if you followed all the happening after his "death" you would realise that it isn't so difficult after all.
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Some of the conspiracy theories have some interesting evidence but I wouldn't really say I'm a believer. Unless you want to say believing in aliens is believing in a conspiracy theory.
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If the aliens are reptilian shapeshifters that live among us and control/dictate our affairs...
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"I aint Been doing Music in a while, because life has a funny way of doing things"

What I think this tweet means:

This is just an excuse. This tweet is saying that things got in my way in life and that's why I started my career later than expected. this "Jason Malachi" hadn't released songs before 2009 because there is no Jason Malachi and "Jason Malachi" is Michael Jackson himself. His name being almost the same as Michael Jackson's is definitely not a coincidence.

Guys if you don't believe this theory then can you please explain these following questions:

How is his name almost Identical to MJ's?
How does he sound exactly lile MJ?
Why is it when I type his name on Google and Youtube, I always get refereed back to MJ?
Why was his first song released just a few months after MJ's death?

I'll be honest, i spent all day racking my brain trying to think of the funniest way to respond to your theory, to point out how endlessly trivial, circumstantial, and how it doesnt work. And you know what?

Not worth it

Its really not. Your theory is stupid. Mankind's greatest strength is the concept of logic. This theory doesnt have any. You did zero fact checking, you used no logic, and when something is 'weird' instead of investigating, this theory makes shit up

Wanna know the big secret? Jason Malachi is a MICHAEL JACKSON IMPERSONATOR

His name sounds SIMILAR to michael's because thats how they might interpret it in india
He sounds like Michael because thats how he was born and decided to make money.
When you type his name into google you get michael because he impersonates michael, thats all hes known for doing, and because of other lunatics who think this guy is michael. Whats YOUR explanation? That michael is working with google to send little winks to people to find out who he is? The hell is wrong with you?
His first song was released in 2007. I found that out in a five second googling. A website called the stupid www.thehollywoodgossip.com managed to explain that to me. Wanna hear a funny coincidence? When that song was released, many people thought it was MJ while michael was still alive, do you know why? BECAUSE HES A MICHAEL JACKSON IMPERSONATOR

Jesus, by your logic last time I went to a casino in lebanon, on August 16, there was a guy who sang, said "thank you very much" and told us to "remember the king". IS ELVIS STILL ALIVE? Is tupac really alive and coachella was merely to distract us and make us think hes dead?

Im sorry, no offence, but this is stupid. Your theory is stupid. And unless we learn to get past this stupid shit as a species, we are never going to progress and go anywhere. if you think Michael jackson is still alive, well fuck, im elvis then. Its just as equally believable. Infact, im an alien, pretending to be elvis. if you backmask "jailhouse rock" you'll find a great recipe for lobster bisque and instructions to my home planet. Our race is called the chitauri



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I don't blindy believe in anything but I take every possibility in consideration
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