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Old 04-04-2012, 08:44 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:46 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I don't get how anyone could be against Abortion.
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Old 04-04-2012, 09:52 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I don't get how anyone could be against Abortion.
Terrible mindset to have over any issue. Literally the worst mindset to be in when you can't comprehend how people could possibly have a different view than you.
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:44 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Wish there was more people like you mrgagentleman. Too many choices are being taking away from us in this country, from both sides. Btw you have just as much say in deciding that baby's fate, it takes two to tango. Yall's decision had no baring on my life just like my decision has no baring on yall's. Respect.
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The same effect but different actions entirely. Saying that they're the same thing is stupid. Just because two actions have the same effect doesn't mean they are the same or if one is right the other can't be right.
Oh they are different actions I'm not making that distinction however as you've stated they both indeed have the same effect. Yet the reaction to both ideas is in a different world. If abortions are a no because any life is better than no life then that means forced breeding is a must in order to fit that view. You don't want to admit that because it's a terrible thing but logically it's equivalent.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:30 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Oh they are different actions I'm not making that distinction however as you've stated they both indeed have the same effect. Yet the reaction to both ideas is in a different world. If abortions are a no because any life is better than no life then that means forced breeding is a must in order to fit that view. You don't want to admit that because it's a terrible thing but logically it's equivalent.
It's not at all though. You are operating under this idea that actions with the same result are "logically equivalent" and that's not the case at all. You have mice in your house and you want to get rid of them. You could hire and exterminator because that would get rid of them. Another option to get rid of the mice is to burn down your house. Same effect from both action, the mice are gone, but yet one action goes to much more extremes measures than the other to do it.

When it comes to not having children I suppose killing living children would be the most extreme measure to get rid of them but an abortion is very close to the top of the list while not having sex is at the bottom.
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It's not at all though. You are operating under this idea that actions with the same result are "logically equivalent" and that's not the case at all. You have mice in your house and you want to get rid of them. You could hire and exterminator because that would get rid of them. Another option to get rid of the mice is to burn down your house. Same effect from both action, the mice are gone, but yet one action goes to much more extremes measures than the other to do it.

When it comes to not having children I suppose killing living children would be the most extreme measure to get rid of them but an abortion is very close to the top of the list while not having sex is at the bottom.
These levels you're adding are purely your own and hold no relevance. For starters what other affects are caused by not having sex that are not caused by said abortion? If you did not have sex your body would naturally get rid of the sperm or egg depending on gender, if you have an abortion you do that exact same thing and nothing else. If you burn your house down to get rid of mice then you've done several other things in the process of finishing this one thing.

The original problem is like say walking down two identical paths while your example is akin to taking a plane, then a taxi and then a segway to your final destination at the end of the path. You're being nonesensical on the issue.

And overall it still does not negate the whole "any life is better than no life" statement. If you truly do believe that statement then you have to be for forced breeding otherwise you're a hypocrite because that's a lot of life being literally flushed away.
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Abortion and birth control should be fully supported in inner city ghettos. Yeah I went there.
The majority of Planned Parenthood buildings and abortion services are in those areas already.
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These levels you're adding are purely your own and hold no relevance. For starters what other affects are caused by not having sex that are not caused by said abortion? If you did not have sex your body would naturally get rid of the sperm or egg depending on gender, if you have an abortion you do that exact same thing and nothing else. If you burn your house down to get rid of mice then you've done several other things in the process of finishing this one thing.

The original problem is like say walking down two identical paths while your example is akin to taking a plane, then a taxi and then a segway to your final destination at the end of the path. You're being nonesensical on the issue.

And overall it still does not negate the whole "any life is better than no life" statement. If you truly do believe that statement then you have to be for forced breeding otherwise you're a hypocrite because that's a lot of life being literally flushed away.
Well when you have an abortion you kill a human fetus. When you don't have sex you don't kill a human fetus. A very significant difference for a lot of people.

Also you're using the "any life is better than no life" idea in the wrong context. The "life" refers to the already fertilized egg that is considered for abortion. No Christian religion believes that since most of them that I can think of say that you shouldn't have sex before marriage.

The idea is that once you have a growing human that killing it because the person would have a bad life is wrong.
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These levels you're adding are purely your own and hold no relevance. For starters what other affects are caused by not having sex that are not caused by said abortion? If you did not have sex your body would naturally get rid of the sperm or egg depending on gender, if you have an abortion you do that exact same thing and nothing else. If you burn your house down to get rid of mice then you've done several other things in the process of finishing this one thing.

The original problem is like say walking down two identical paths while your example is akin to taking a plane, then a taxi and then a segway to your final destination at the end of the path. You're being nonesensical on the issue.

And overall it still does not negate the whole "any life is better than no life" statement. If you truly do believe that statement then you have to be for forced breeding otherwise you're a hypocrite because that's a lot of life being literally flushed away.
Doesn't surprise me an atheist is pro-choice.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils..._is_murder.htm

Abortion is murder dude.
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