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Old 03-06-2012, 06:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Only just found out about this and watched the 30 minute shortfilm/documentary. Doing my best to spread it around and that, any one else seen it?
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm just trying to get the worlds biggest celebrities to RT this vid, figured I could go down the list of most followed twitter celebrities and tweet them all, I urge everyone to do the same 1000 voices are louder then 1 after all. I know that It isn't much but I live in a city where not to many people give a fuck about anyone but themselves, so it's pretty much the most I can do.
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Summarize this video for me please and I'll decide if I want to waste a half hour and watch this.
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It's kinda annoying seeing this on Twitter, Facebook, Youtube and everywhere. People are really easy when it comes to jumping on bandwagons. Publicizing it won't get him arrested. It will fade out in a week or so, just like that SOPA thing.

I'm personally not gonna participate in it. I hope he gets caught and everything but I hate bandwagons. And this just seems kinda lame to me.
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I saw this response on reddit and thought it was interesting.

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Reasons I'm being negative, and I'm sure I'll get bashed for this. They came to speak at our school, and made a big deal about sending money to the Ugandan millitary. This is bad. First, Kony isn't even in Uganda. It'd be like funding the Mexican police to track down a man in Argentina. Second: the Ugandan millitary is using this as an excuse to enter other countries and exploit the Congo's resources, while murdering and raping innocents. The Ugandan government is full of far worse criminals than Kony, and their president is responsible for millions of deaths. Third: Their financial status is questionable. They've refused BBB to look into any affairs, and their transparency rating is worryingly low on Charity Navigator, plus there's allegations of fraud relating to their lobbying activities. Four: There's allegations Kony is already dead. His group is no longer large or all that active, there's better places for the money to go, like Doctors without Borders. Five: Most worryingly to me, they don't hide the fact that Invisible Children lobbies for DIRECT millitary intervention in Africa. Didn't we learn anything from our terrorist hunts in the middle east?

Sources. Here: http://www.observer.ug/index.php?opt...ies&Itemid=116 That about the Ugandan army, and Kony already being dead. BBB, look on their website.

Lobbying allegations: http://www.blackstarnews.com/news/12...010-06-02.html

Also, interesting news on this. A friend of mine e-mailed the author of this article earlier today, and he just forwarded me his response:

"(Name removed), I really appreciate that you have taken the time to write to me and ask questions. I have been to Uganda many times and have lots of friends there. I believe that IC is supported by the Pentagon to do their marketing and public relations to justify United States military intervention in parts of Africa. It's not as simple as the good guy vs. bad guy narrative that people like to hear. There are very complicated issues happening. There are actually worse things being perpetrated in Africa by the United States military. I have attached a list of articles and interviews that I have done regarding issues in east Africa. You can also learn more about me and my friends in Africa on my website. Independent Global Citizen http://independentglobalcitizen.com/ Peace! Michael"

I'll make it clear that I have no evidence for his claims, and if you want to research, visit his website. But it IS an interesting development. I also did not get forwarded his attached list of articles when my friend forwarded this to me, but I can try to get them up if anyone is genuinely curious.

Another interesting criticism.

http://chrisblattman.com/2011/11/21/...sistance-army/

Expanding the idea even farther about the Ugandan troops being a worse evill. From the book "Living with Bad Surroundings": "In northern Uganda, it turned out that the conduct of Museveni’s troops — allegedly a well-disciplined army, controlled and educated by its political wing — soon deteriorated. Killings, rape, and other forms of physical abuse aimed at noncombatants became the order of the day soon after the soldiers established themselves in Acholiland …"

Museveni is the president of Uganda.

Expanding even more because I love you so much Reddit: http://www.wrongingrights.com/2009/0...idea-ever.html Yes, it's from 2009. Still makes points-and the very last comment is extremely recent and makes even more ones.

Further research:http://ugandansabroad.org/2010/05/30...itary-attacks/

TL;DR version: The people that have actually fought against/lived with Kony are AGAINST the IC plan of military intervention. I'm pretty sure violating the will of the people that live there is not the solution.

Also, read Mariod505's comments further on down, about people deleting the criticisms of IC off their wiki page. I'm not saying IC did this, I don't know-but that is NOT the solution.

All I'm asking is for y'all to be aware there is serious issues with this, and at least think before jumping on the emotional bandwagon. A little research goes a long way.
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It's kinda annoying seeing this on Twitter, Facebook, Youtube and everywhere. People are really easy when it comes to jumping on bandwagons. Publicizing it won't get him arrested. It will fade out in a week or so, just like that SOPA thing.

I'm personally not gonna participate in it. I hope he gets caught and everything but I hate bandwagons. And this just seems kinda lame to me.
But that's how movements are formed.
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It's kinda annoying seeing this on Twitter, Facebook, Youtube and everywhere. People are really easy when it comes to jumping on bandwagons. Publicizing it won't get him arrested. It will fade out in a week or so, just like that SOPA thing.

I'm personally not gonna participate in it. I hope he gets caught and everything but I hate bandwagons. And this just seems kinda lame to me.
Yeah, you're such a badass, I mean, how lame is it to take a stand against a crazed theocratic child-soldier using rebel? That's total bandwagon bullshit. Let me guess, you liked human rights, but then it sold out and went all mainstream and shit.
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^ Doesn't make it any less annoying. Seriously though, I'm not trying to be a dick or anything but I'm willing to bet 90% of the people involved in this "campaign" don't give a shit whether or not Kony is found. They watched this video and thought it would be cool and "hipster" to "participate." Just because of how well the video was done. They don't care about the subject at hand.
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They're participating aren't they? The first 'hipsters' were the flower children of 1960s Counterculture. You see how much they accomplished?

Why doesn't this thread have 100 pages? Oh no, let's discuss girls and wrestling cos it's so fucking important and interesting compared to campaigning against the kidnapping of 66 thousand kids.
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U MAD?

Things like this happen everywhere. Only difference is this specific video turned viral and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. What's happening is terrible yeah, but it doesn't affect me. Do you give blood? Do you donate to dying kids in Africa? Just wondering.
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Things like this happen everywhere. Only difference is this specific video turned viral and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. What's happening is terrible yeah, but it doesn't affect me. Do you give blood? Do you donate to dying kids in Africa? Just wondering.
I'm in year 11 and I donate blood. My sister donates to a family in Papua New Guinea every month. So I probably complete your perception of what 'making a difference' is. Stop clenching your fists at 'bandwagons', they're what spark revolutions.
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