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09-24-2009, 01:27 PM
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Resident Old Man
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Re: Workout/Staying in Shape Thread
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Originally Posted by -Flex-
Yessssir. For the most part.
Phil ftw.
Dexter or Kai for 2nd.
Wolf 4th, Cutler 5th.
I'm not too comfortable picking Kai over Dexter but I'll stick with it because I think Kai will out-mass him and that will play dividends. 
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you see the pics from the athletes meeting yesterday?
Cutler is looking very lean in the face.
http://www.flexonline.com/09contests...ing1/index.htm
If his right leg and arm don't look too bad, he has a shot at top 3. I still think 4 or 5 is expected from him. I saw an interview with Coleman and he didn't even have Jay top 5. When asked, he simply said "Jay's done"
I just don't see anyone beating Dexter... not this year... that's my .02 and I'm sticking to it.
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09-24-2009, 02:23 PM
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Veni, vidi, vici
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Re: Workout/Staying in Shape Thread
Let's make a sig bet. I don't care how you want to do it. I'll ride with Heath, Kai, and Wolfy if you want to take Jay, Dex, and Big Vic'. We'll do it based on the winner and who's squad has the best overall average / median in terms of placing at the event?
Like, if Phil wins, I put one thing in your sig that you have to keep there for a couple of weeks; vice-versa if Dex wins.
If Phil, Wolfy, and Kai take 1st, 2nd, and 3rd then we'll double the time from two weeks - four weeks.
Unless you can come up with something better, but let's have a friendly wager and make this interesting. 
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09-26-2009, 01:34 AM
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The Nature Boy
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Re: Workout/Staying in Shape Thread
By the look of what I saw at pre-judging and comments on a body building forum I visit Jay's got this one in the bag.
Top 5 so far would be, in no order....
Jay Cutler
Dexter Jackson
Kai Greene
Branch Warren
Phil Heath

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09-26-2009, 12:02 PM
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Veni, vidi, vici
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Re: Workout/Staying in Shape Thread
Yeah. I think we all wrote Jay off. He definitely proved us all wrong. Besides Branch & Dex, Cutler was the only one to come in fully conditioned at pre-judging. He's so damn big that I think the judges would take a fully conditioned Jay over a fully conditioned Dex any day of the week. It's obvious that Jay's width and mass blows Dexter out of the water but Jackson is a lot more dense and detailed. We'll see how it goes tonight.
This is 2001-2002 circa Jay Cutler.
So disappointed in Heath & Wolf. Looks like big Vic is in trouble, too. Left leg looks horrible compared to his right.
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09-26-2009, 02:58 PM
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The Nature Boy
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Re: Workout/Staying in Shape Thread
Gotta love live webcasts. I'll watch the finals later on today when i get home from work.
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09-26-2009, 03:14 PM
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Re: Workout/Staying in Shape Thread
Amen, brotha.  si:
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09-26-2009, 10:06 PM
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The Nature Boy
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Re: Workout/Staying in Shape Thread
Jay's looking good. Greene looked good as well. Jackson hasn't been on yet so it'll be interesting to see how he goes.
For those interested - 2009 Mr Olympia Stream-
Its the same as posting a PPV stream.
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09-26-2009, 11:28 PM
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The Nature Boy
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Re: Workout/Staying in Shape Thread
Ha, Stone Cold makes an appearance just before the winners are announced.
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09-26-2009, 11:56 PM
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The Nature Boy
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Re: Workout/Staying in Shape Thread
6th - Victor Martinez
5th - Phil Heath
4th - Kai Greene
3rd - Dexter Jackson
2nd - Branch Warren
1st - Jay Cutler
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09-27-2009, 01:19 AM
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Re: Workout/Staying in Shape Thread
I thought the judging was pretty spot on for the most part.
1st: Jay Cutler -
Impressive performance; probably the second most impressive behind Branch Warren's Olympia Weekend. Cutler entered the stage with the same massive size, same frame, more definition, way more detail, way more vascularity, way more definition, the same fullness, and a better haircut to distinguish him from Dennis Wolf. Proud of Jay for returning to the throne. He busted his ass to get back to where he is sitting again. There's no arguing whether or not he was deserving.
2nd: Branch Warren -
Honest to God he was the highlight of the weekend along with Jay sending out his statement which told everyone that he wasn't out of his prime yet. Branch is always the best conditioned in almost every single competition. His structure isn't the best; hell, he isn't even all that balanced, but Branch gives it his all. It's about time he got some major recognition as one of the world's best bodybuilders.
Best legs in the business along with Cutler's imho. He could really use some work on his lats and width but I'm afraid that can't be done with his structure.
Good for Branch.
3rd: Dexter Jackson -
After evaluating him and comparing him to the likes of Jay, I came across a few glaring weaknesses in Dexter this Olympia.
-His left bicep was much smaller than his right, which raised questions of symmetrical issues for the first time concerning Dexter.
-Believe it or not, Dexter wasn't on top of his game this Olympia. Still better than Kai, Vic, and arguably Phil and Branch but Dexter wasn't as sharp this outing. If you look at some of his back double biceps along with his lat spread from the back, you could tell he wasn't as detailed. Just look at a photo of him next to Jay on Friday night during pre-judging call outs: Dexter didn't have the glute/hamstring tie-in.
Like Dorian Yates said before the competition on Muscular Development, a same conditioned Jay Cutler will beat a same conditioned Dexter Jackson everyday of the week. Cutler is more massive, blows Dexter out of the water literally everywhere in terms of mass, and is as wide as a barn door.
4th: Kai Greene -
Fell off Saturday. I don't know about everyone else but comparing his Saturday shots to his Friday shots he seemingly looked a lot more smaller & flatter.
The Kai type of bodybuilder is the bodybuilder of the future. Not a bad Olympia debut for Kai Greene by any means.
5th: Phil Heath -
Came in a lot more sharp Saturday with more fullness. Too bad he didn't show up like that Friday before pre-judging, may have influenced a few votes. He's definitely the man of the future. Well, Kai and him at least..
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