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Old 04-26-2013, 12:15 AM   #3341 (permalink)
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I dropped from 260 to 150 lbs. 4 summers ago when I was sick and haven't been able to put on much weight since. I want to bulk up so I don't look and feel so flimsy and flabby but I don't want to do any exercises yet until I can find ones that won't damage the mesh implant I had put in my upper abdomen last year during surgery. Need some muscle to fill in my skin.
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:53 AM   #3342 (permalink)
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Always been in decent shape, never jacked or anything, but one thing I've never understood about serious lifters is:

What's the point of losing 30+ pounds in a 'cut' just to gain it back in a 'bulk'...why not just get to a weight/physique you like and maintain it?
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The idea being in a bulk you're adding muscle. Which in order to do means more calories and you're going to gain some fat. Then you cut, thereby getting rid of a lot of the fat you gained via bulking while also retaining as much muscle as you can. Rinse and repeat. So ideally you're adding muscle over time.
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Always been in decent shape, never jacked or anything, but one thing I've never understood about serious lifters is:

What's the point of losing 30+ pounds in a 'cut' just to gain it back in a 'bulk'...why not just get to a weight/physique you like and maintain it?
the 30 pounds you cut isn't just muscle, it's fat and muscle (hopefully more fat than muscle). You drop as much fat as you can, then bulk to build up muscle, and hopefully not too much fat. So, with the correct balance, you're constantly making gains while bulking.

plus, a bodybuilder probably would never be cutting 30 pounds; if they can than that means their way overweight. a 200 lb body builder doesn't cut 30 lbs, then bulk back up 30 lbs again and a again.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:19 PM   #3345 (permalink)
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Any advice for me guys? I've put on pretty much 60+% fat and 40-% muscle on a bulk, yes on a bulk. Needless to say my bulk failed miserably. I didn't even put on that much weight, either, I went from 133-143 in 6 long months, also needless to say I failed miserably. Went from 16.5% body fat to 19.5% body fat . Should I cut down to at least 14% or something and then bulk again, properly, though? Would a 3 day split be good?

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Any advice for me guys? I've put on pretty much 60+% fat and 40-% muscle on a bulk, yes on a bulk. Needless to say my bulk failed miserably. I didn't even put on that much weight, either, I went from 133-143 in 6 long months, also needless to say I failed miserably. Went from 16.5% body fat to 19.5% body fat . Should I cut down to at least 14% or something and then bulk again, properly, though? Would a 3 day split be good?
3 day split is fine, but it really is up to you. I lift sometimes 6 days straight (but I have my workouts made so I can do that and not be crap), other times I'll lift every other day or even take 2-3 days off in between.

a 3% gain in BF isn't bad if it was over 6 months; I'd say that's pretty damn fine imo. I don't understand what this "60+% fat and 40-% muscle" meant, but bulking isn't easy, even if it sounds like fun. If you're fine with what you look like now, keep bulking. But if you feel like a fat cow, then cut. 19.5% BF is a bit, but not in everyone's opinion, not mine. Summer is already here, might as well try bulking correctly for another 6; think about it.
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3 day split is fine, but it really is up to you. I lift sometimes 6 days straight (but I have my workouts made so I can do that and not be crap), other times I'll lift every other day or even take 2-3 days off in between.

a 3% gain in BF isn't bad if it was over 6 months; I'd say that's pretty damn fine imo. I don't understand what this "60+% fat and 40-% muscle" meant, but bulking isn't easy, even if it sounds like fun. If you're fine with what you look like now, keep bulking. But if you feel like a fat cow, then cut. 19.5% BF is a bit, but not in everyone's opinion, not mine. Summer is already here, might as well try bulking correctly for another 6; think about it.
Thanks for the response.

I only put on 10 pounds in 6 months of which 6 pounds was fat and 4 pounds was muscle; 60% fat and 40% muscle gained on a bulk which is poor, plus the fact it was only 10 pounds. I really dislike my body so I was thinking of cutting but in about 10+ months of progress, I'd pretty much be the same as what I started with a pound more muscle.
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First and foremost, you need to map out what your caloric/protein/fat/carbohydrate goals are if you want to bulk the right way. Research different types of diets and find something that you know would work for you. It is a marathon, not a sprint. Very few people can get by on eating whatever they want, however much they want and coast in the gym to achieve awesome results. From the sound of it, you went on something called a "Dreamer Bulk" or a flat out dirty bulk where you ate straight shit the majority of the time and didn't train right to boot. I would definitely start a proper cut to lose the fat, research proper bulking procedures, find out what your nutritional goals are, and then start over. Bulk clean next time and cutting will be a breeze.

A 3 day lifting split is fine if those 3 days are legitimate balls to the wall, drenched in sweat type of training. Fitness is just like everything else in life - you get what you work for.
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The idea being in a bulk you're adding muscle. Which in order to do means more calories and you're going to gain some fat. Then you cut, thereby getting rid of a lot of the fat you gained via bulking while also retaining as much muscle as you can. Rinse and repeat. So ideally you're adding muscle over time.
Bulking and cutting like that really isn't necessary, if done right you can gain muscle without having to put on all that fat:

http://scoobysworkshop.com/gain-muscle-lose-fat/

Scooby knows what he's talking about, you should read his article
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Scooby lost all credibility after he decided to call out Jeff Seid, who looks 200% better than him, for no reason whatsoever. I don't care how condescending Seid is or how he tries too hard to be like Zyzz, Scooby is like 50 years old and jealous of a 19 year old dude.

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