[i$e]

It is difficult when 80% of the posts in this thread are from people who don't understand that 'basic advice'. I've not spent a day at University studying any of this either.

[Glass Shatters]

Originally Posted by Rush

I don't say it does.

Right. I was just putting your name out there because it was bought up as you being knowledgable because you studied it in college. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Spoiler for Average Personal Trainer:

Absolutely. Having said that though, just because someone can lift, or run, or look huge doesn't mean they're great on giving advice.

Of course it doesn't mean they are great at giving advice. It does mean they know what works and have applied it practically to prove that it works - much like someone who has taken a supplement and one who hasn't. I wouldn't take advice from someone who has never lifted more than me. Would you? That would be like a football player taking advice from a coach who never played the sport at any level. He may know, but he never applied it practically.

For what it's worth, I don't have the most impressive physique, am definitely not the leanest or most vascular right now, but I fill out a shirt and jeans well and you can tell that I can put up some weight.

[El Conquistador]

You're misconstruing a personal trainer, who takes a weekend certification course, with someone with a degree - often 4-6 years (in the US, at least) with extensive education. I think it's important to make that distinction. An entirely different type of coursework. More stringent, more rigorous.

EDIT:

Yeah, there are people who get a degree and go the personal trainer route, but that isn't particularly lucrative.

[Glass Shatters]

Originally Posted by El Conquistador

You're misconstruing a personal trainer, who takes a weekend certification course, with someone with a degree - often 4-6 years (in the US, at least) with extensive education. I think it's important to make that distinction. An entirely different type of coursework. More stringent, more rigorous.

No, I'm pairing anyone who has a degree or certification in something yet lacks the knowledge of actually practically applying it themselves together.

Bookworm: "I know how to get a 500 pound squat, I went to college for it."
Me: "Can you Squat 500 pounds?"
Bookworm: "No."
Me: ""

Of course it is altogether different if someone has the knowledge and has applied it.

[Rush]

Originally Posted by Glass Shatters

Of course it doesn't mean they are great at giving advice. It does mean they know what works and have applied it practically to prove that it works - much like someone who has taken a supplement and one who hasn't. I wouldn't take advice from someone who has never lifted more than me. Would you? That would be like a football player taking advice from a coach who never played the sport at any level. He may know, but he never applied it practically.

For what it's worth, I don't have the most impressive physique, am definitely not the leanest or most vascular right now, but I fill out a shirt and jeans well and you can tell that I can put up some weight.

Indeed, but what i mean most by that is that isn't that they can't get results but some of the biggest guys have the absolute worst form, and its only a matter of time before they hurt themselves.

[El Conquistador]

Has applied it to what?

I think you're confusing knowledge with something else. Just because a person doesn't practice what they preach doesn't mean he/she is any less knowledgeable on the subject. It's much like a tattoo artist who doesn't have or wear tattoos, but has established good will and credibility through his work.

I understand what you're alluding to, just unsure how to word it.

[Glass Shatters]

Originally Posted by El Conquistador

Has applied it to what?

I think you're confusing knowledge with something else. Just because a person doesn't practice what they preach doesn't mean he/she is any less knowledgeable on the subject. It's much like a tattoo artist who doesn't have or wear tattoos, but has established good will and credibility through his work.

I understand what you're alluding to, just unsure how to word it.

Let's use it in the context then. Someone who has never taken said supplement yet has knowledge gained solely from books is a credible source for supplement information on whether or not they work or if anyone else should take them? Again, it's like a football coach that has never played football on any level.

Fitness isn't like a history subject where you can read about it and don't really have to experience it. Fitness is an ever-evolving series and progressions in the industry are being made every single day.

[i$e]

Odd logic.

[sharkboy22]

Anyone have any good barbell tricep exercises that they can recommend? I don't have time to go to a gym and I'm looking to make an investment in a set of dumbells later down the road but for now all I'm stuck with is a barbell and a bench. Note, the bench is a stupid bench that prohibits me from doing skull crushers. So that's out the window. Any suggestions?

[Glass Shatters]

Originally Posted by sharkboy22

Anyone have any good barbell tricep exercises that they can recommend? I don't have time to go to a gym and I'm looking to make an investment in a set of dumbells later down the road but for now all I'm stuck with is a barbell and a bench. Note, the bench is a stupid bench that prohibits me from doing skull crushers. So that's out the window. Any suggestions?

Close grip bench press. I really can't think of any more with a barbell and you're probably better off doing dips and diamond push ups if your bench is shoddy.