[Rush]

Its not that i can't, its just how i break up my week. I live a bit under 2km away from the gym so i walk there, jog back. I have a pool, a heavy bag, live near the beach and have a bike and play and train for cricket so my cardio mostly gets broken up throughout general activities during my week. Generally in the gym a max of 4 days a week, 2-3 lifting, 1 cardio.

[Loudness]

Originally Posted by i$e

I pretty much always advocate heavy lifting unless supplied with info to suggest it's not possible.

Anyway, I don't do cardio because it's a non-essential factor to my goals. Just saying, IF I were to do it on my lifting days, I'd do it after lifting, not before. Obv you can do whatever you want though and nobody is saying you can't do them both in the same day.

It's all about effectiveness tbh. I don't see why you wouldn't do cardio unless you want to look like shit and have no stamina (not directed at you). If you're doing cardio three times/weight lifting 3-4 times a week, you've already won. I was mostly referring my statement to those, who apparently think doing cardio all the time will get you big, or to those who don't lift will make them big. Now this sounds like basic advice,but believe me, I've met so many people who thought they could get big from just running around and doing extremely light lifting or getting bigger from simply lifting light that it's hilarious. I lift for looks and still lift more than most of those "abs"-infested nerds, to get the size/strength, you gotta do something for it.

Originally Posted by Rush

Its not that i can't, its just how i break up my week. I live a bit under 2km away from the gym so i walk there, jog back. I have a pool, a heavy bag, live near the beach and have a bike and play and train for cricket so my cardio mostly gets broken up throughout general activities during my week. Generally in the gym a max of 4 days a week, 2-3 lifting, 1 cardio.

Yeah, but in your case it makes sense. Compare your workout to most of the guys who make excuses and you'll realise pretty soon that you're doing more than most of them. Totally different scenario. I'm talking of those who lift three times a week yet somehow still can't find the time do cardio at all.

[i$e]

Originally Posted by Loudness

It's all about effectiveness tbh. I don't see why you wouldn't do cardio unless you want to look like shit and have no stamina

I don't know if this is being lost in translation or what, but this is highly fallicous.

[Loudness]

Originally Posted by i$e

I don't know if this is being lost in translation or what, but this is highly fallicous.

I don't get it. I was simply administrating doing cardio more often instead of perma-bulking. Been working together with several types of guys, and the strongest ones, who were ironically into powerlifting, never did cardio. Those guys also never ate clean though, dunno what's hard to see about that. What's your goals?

Edit: Left out workout ideals in my quote LOL. You I see where you get that point. Was actually referring to the guy who said that non lifting and doing cardio all the time was a joke. Was saying that cardio was for fat burning was for what it is, and that lifting is for muscle gain. Can see where you got the doubts from that quote though.

[i$e]

Yeah, I get all that, it's just saying that you need cardio to look great isn't true. Cardio is a completely unessential factor in acheiving a desirable body composition and that point needs to be stressed tbh.

This is not me saying that cardio is useless or anything though. It certainly has benefits for people looking for increased cardiovascular endurance or for those who lack discipline in the kitchen.

[Rush]

Lifting gains muscle which in turn burns more calories thus helping reduce the amount of fat you have. You can do no cardio at all and still lose fat.

[i$e]

Chea.

[Nas]

hey iSe, how about that guide for gaining weight? I got the Scrawny to Brawny book, but talk about over complicating things, surely it's simpler than they say it is...

[i$e]

Yeah, I'll write it soon.

[Nas]

Cheers.