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post #2651 of 4918 (permalink) Old 10-18-2012, 10:27 PM
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You will never get 200 lbs and below 10% if you just hit the light weights and do shitty abs exercises, neglecting legs and any logical intesity and rep-range. Your muscles only grow if you give them stimulation to do so, so if you only go light, why should your muscles think they have any reason to grow?
This is true, personal experience. I'm far from being a fitness guru, but I'll try to throw in my thoughts on this.

I did light weight and easy exercises for great amounts of time (2-3 hours) 3 times a week, and the results were not that great.

I bought a few more weights and instead of doing easy and light training, now I usually only workout for an hour but doing exercises a lot harder than before. Only one week has passed, and my bicep is starting to get hard normally, without me needing to do any strength for it to pop out.

More workout time = more results - X

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Lately I've been trying to do this exercise that has been recommended to me (of course I do more than just this).

Instead of doing bench-presses/push-ups/dumbbells normally, I hold them midway trough until I can't take it any longer, and then rest for a while, and repeat.

Not sure if this is worthy, but I must say it has not disappointed so far.

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are you talking about negatives or time-under-tension?

you should all just do Stiff Leg Dead Lifts. You'll get huge; don't even do anything else as a matter of fact.

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nah bra 50 reps of dumbell curls 6x a week gets you hugeeee

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rush, you talking about Hohenheim of Light, right? I can always pm him...

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I can write a guide if you want.

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^^^ that. Not doing enough as in the volume, intensity, consistancy is not high enough.
I don't understand fully, I was about to reply with they are good enough apart from squats/deadlifts but like I said surely that can't be the problem?

For my chest (for example), I'm doing bench presses, dips, push ups, diamond pushups, wide pushups, should I be doing more with dumbbells as well? Should I do flys/pullovers as well as incline bench presses? Even if I only did bench presses, and did a high enough intensity and volume and kept it consistent, surely I would see gains, just not as good as if I targeted the whole of the chest, right? It's the volume, intensity and consistency that is key?
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I don't understand fully, I was about to reply with they are good enough apart from squats/deadlifts but like I said surely that can't be the problem?
Yes it almost certainly is, because the two exercises that you're not focusing properly on are the two that contribute the most to overall strength, power and growth.

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Squats and deadlifts are fairly key. You can still add size without them but they're very handy exercises.

http://www.wrestlingforum.com/11893049-post2357.html

^^^ has the stuff i mean about intensity. If you dont push yourself then you wont get as much as you can out of your workouts.


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Yes it almost certainly is, because the two exercises that you're not focusing properly on are the two that contribute the most to overall strength, power and growth.
Right. But what about upper-body people? You see them walking around with a skinny bottom half and then this big top half, they surely don't do squats and deadlifts. And shouldn't growth occur in every other muscle from eating a surplus and working them? Hell even if I just did bicep curls, it would look strange but wouldn't my biceps grow? Maybe not as well, but they would still grow?

I'll keep up squats/deadlifts although they're so annoying with dumbbells. I don't think it's the problem though but I'll try it.

@Rush I do push myself, I can feel it as well. I'm definitely working hard, eating a surplus and sleeping enough. My diet is not 100% clean but it's pretty good, and I'm counting things like bread, certain oils as 'not so clean' when I have been told they are fine. (I know bread doesn't make you fat lol, just makes me so bloated).

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Right. But what about upper-body people? You see them walking around with a skinny bottom half and then this big top half, they surely don't do squats and deadlifts. And shouldn't growth occur in every other muscle from eating a surplus and working them? Hell even if I just did bicep curls, it would look strange but wouldn't my biceps grow? Maybe not as well, but they would still grow?
DL/Squats are HUGE compound lifts that work a vast number of muscles in all different areas. That's why they're the kings.

Of course you can be a Captain Upper Body if you want, but it looks terrible and you won't have any good base strength.

You're going to need to start using a barbell if you want any serious strength & size gains though.

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