[Patrick Bateman]

Do you think one rep but with a lot of reruns could work?

[i$e]

Not really.

Good gains @Jose

[DNoD]

@Jose nice! What was your bf% and what is it now? Good luck on the extra gains, I'm sure you'll get there.

Btw guys, what's the best type of pre-workout/post-workout meal for fat loss?

[JoseBxNYC]

I assume I was around 20% or 25%. Now I assume I'm around 16%.

I heard that the body fat required to see abs is around 13%. Any true to this?

[i$e]

Originally Posted by DNoD

@Jose nice! What was your bf% and what is it now? Good luck on the extra gains, I'm sure you'll get there.

Btw guys, what's the best type of pre-workout/post-workout meal for fat loss?

You're thinking about it wrong. The purpose of the pre-workout and post-workout meals are to fuel and re-fuel, respectively. Neither meal is individually designed for 'fat loss' because that comes from having an overall caloric deficit when taking into account your entire diet. If you're asking what you should be taking in, then pre-workout you want high carbs, moderate protein, and post-workout you want high carbs, high protein, low-ish fat. Complex carbs before and simple carbs after is how I do it.

Originally Posted by JoseBxNYC

I assume I was around 20% or 25%. Now I assume I'm around 16%.

I heard that the body fat required to see abs is around 13%. Any true to this?

It's more like 10-11% for the average person (unless flexing) but I'm sure due to genetic differences some people could see theirs at 13%.

[DNoD]

Cool, nice going dude. Keep it up.

As for abs, It depends on the person and where they store fat. I would say 12% for top abs, 10% for middle, 8% for a 6 pack, even if the bottom ones aren't too defined for average guys. These are just guesses, though. I store a lot of fat on my torso/stomach area and when I had 10% body fat you could only see the top ones, and they weren't that defined, and sometimes not really in certain light. Although having said that I could make them look more defined as well, but just normally they weren't that defined... If that makes sense.

And thank you, @i$e.

[D17]

If i've worked out earlier, so about 2-3 hours beforehand, then play football (which pretty much makes up my cardio as it do it a minimum of 4 times a week for atleast 2 hours), will I burn off muscle and/or get less gains as i've read many a times, regardless of how good my nutrition is (or tries to be, basically all the correct foods and calorie consumptions), or is it all bs seeing as the muscles primarily used in football are legs and hardly anything that I work beforehand (e.g. Tris, Bis, Chest etc).. ?

[i$e]

From a purely bodybuilding perspective, it'll have some effect on recovery, but as long as you've got the nutritional side locked down it won't be much of a deal. You'll be athletic as fuq.

[Gang]

My progress:
6 moths ago - 6 ft and 148 lb
now - 6 ft and 165 lb

I am doing pull ups, muscle ups and push ups only. Next month i'll start lifting weights. Any tips on that?

[Tyler Durden]

^ Depends on what your goals are?