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British Medical Association Votes to Decriminalise Abortion After 24 Weeks

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The British Medical Association (BMA), the professional association and trade union for doctors and medical students in the UK, has voted to decriminalise abortion after the current legal limit of 24 weeks.
Over 500 delegates debated the motion, presented by Hackney GP Coral Jones, at the BMA’s annual representative meeting in Bournemouth.

“We must respect women and have trust in women to make decisions for themselves and their families,” a triumphant Jones declared.

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The full text of the motion explains that decriminalisation “should only apply up to viability” – defined as 28 weeks by the Infant Life (Preservation) Act 1929.

This would still mean a significant increase on the current 24-week limit, allowing abortion into the seventh month of pregnancy.

Even the 24-week limit has become controversial in recent years. There are hundreds of abortions after 23 weeks annually in Britain – and many doctors will refuse to save babies born short of the official abortion limit – but medical advances are helping children to survive as early 22 weeks now.

In October 2014 Dr Martin Ward Platt, consultant neonatologist at the Royal Victoria Infirmary in Newcastle, said the survival rate for babies born at 23 weeks was as high as 60 per cent in his hospital.

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The BMA’s decision follows the Royal College of Midwives (RCM) signing up to a campaign led by BPAS – the country’s largest abortion provider – to decriminalise terminations all the way up to birth.

RCM chief executive Cathy Warwick, who also chairs BPAS, declared that “abortion is part of the role of the midwife”.

But the pro-abortion stance of the trade union elites has not proven universally popular with rank and file medical professionals.

Around 1,200 doctors and medical students signed an open letter opposing the BMA’s “extreme motion”, which they characterised as being “out of keeping with both our duties as responsible professionals” and not in line with the views of ordinary women.

“A ComRes poll in May 2017 found that only 1 per cent of women wanted to see the time limit for abortion extended above 24 weeks and only 1 per cent of women wanted to see the time limit for abortion extended through to birth,” they pointed out.

“The same poll found that 70% of women wanted to see the abortion time limit reduced to 20 weeks or below. The poll also found that 91% of women favour a total and explicit ban on sex-selective abortion … Clearly, women want the law to be stricter on the legality and regulation of abortion, not more lax.”

Opposition to the RCM’s backing for abortion up to birth, with members saying it would be “extremely distressing for midwives to care for women and their unborn children up to eight months into a pregnancy, only to be made to cooperate in those children’s termination.”

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Responding to the latest developments, Society for the Protection of the Unborn Child (SPUC) spokesman Dr Anthony McCarthy said the BMA had “betrayed all who take seriously healthcare for pregnant women in favour of an extremist agenda in line with the abortion industry’s laissez-faire ‘up to birth’ attitude to ending the lives of unborn children.”

He added that the decision had been taken “Against overwhelming public opinion and against those who support women by refusing to trivialise abortion” in support of an agenda “that has nothing to do with good medicine and everything to do with ideology.
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I don't get it, why women would be against an even longer time limit for abortion? Usually people want more flexibility.
 
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Everyone here was once a clump of cells

Everyone everywhere was once a clump of cells

I never did anything to deserve being killed when I was a fetus and no other fetus ever has either. "woman fucked bareback and wants to get out of the consequences" isn't a justification for killing a fetus

"it's my body" and all the other excuses aren't sufficient justification. Every justification for the "right to choose" that doesn't have to do with the health of the mother or with rape boils down to "don't want to raise the child, that's reason enough to kill it." Purely selfish.

I don't think a fetus produced by rape deserves to die either, but the mother shouldn't be forced to raise a child when she didn't consent to the sex that produced it. I also don't think a fetus whose existence threatens the life of the mother deserves to die either but the mother also doesn't deserve to die. In those two situations both the fetus and the mother are innocent (the fetus is always innocent) and it's very hard to come down on one side or the other. A healthy pregnancy resulting from consensual sex? Be fucking responsible if you don't want that to happen. Wanting to be irresponsible or being irresponsible and wanting being irresponsible to be consequence-free isn't reason to end a human life

Child support laws should be toughened up too, the consequences for being a deadbeat dad are pretty much a joke. Way too easy to skip out and never pay a cent or do a single thing to raise the child you made because you wanted to get your dick wet.
 
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/abortion-decriminalised-uk-bma-british-medical-association-doctors-act-a7810116.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40418986


Some quotes not given in the Breitbart article:

The organisation wants abortion to be treated like any other medical procedure and therefore to be regulated and subject to certain standards and will now look to lobby government to change the law.
"What must be clear is that decriminalisation does not mean deregulation.
"The debate and the BMA's new policy only relate to whether abortion should or should not be a criminal offence - the policy does not address the broader issue of when and how abortion should be available."
The vote at the doctors' annual conference in Bournemouth does not change the BMA's policy on the 24-week limit for an abortion. The union still backs that.
The BMA said limits could still be set, but subject to professional and regulatory sanctions.
 
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The ultimate goal is abortion on demand with no restrictions at any point in a pregnancy.* Those quotes "not given" are lies and everyone knows it. The "safe, legal, and rare" mantra has changed to just 'safe and legal.'

*With the sole exception being that advocating for no restrictions on partial-birth abortion procedures has cooled off somewhat in some factions of the pro-abortion movement in the last few years.
 
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Instead of terminating the fetuses at whatever week it is, I think they need to develop some sort of chamber that will keep the baby alive until some Pro-Lifer who is so keen on the lives of babies can raise it themselves.

I think that would solve a lot of issues, and would weed out the religious pro lifers who want to actually walk the walk rather than just talk the talk. Don't think the baby should be killed? You take care of it then, I'm sure God will take somehow take care of the rest.
 
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The religious are by far the biggest adopters of children, so I'm fine with this idea. The more children those on the religious right raise, the stronger the future of the religious right becomes, the better off the world is.

While libtards continue tossing aside their children like they're garbage, we good guys -- conservatives -- continue to Make America Great Again. :nerd:
 
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I think it's less about finding people to take care of them and more about the idea of essentially forcing someone to be ill for 9mos, not including possible complications.

Also, this news essentially means that women that underwent medically necessary abortions post 24 weeks were technically breaking the law. I suppose all it was was a technicality, but still not fair.
 
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