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Donald Trump: The New US President (All Discussion Here)



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@Carte Blanche and @Roy Mustang , very well-made points.

In truth, winning is the best possible thing that could happen to liberals' fear and loathing of working class and middle class whites. The continual disregard, mockery and, electorally, taking-for-granted that liberals and Democrats--and Republicans, by the way, especially from the establishment's haughty viewpoint--of those voters was leading to a rebellion sooner or later.

Five cops are executed in the streets of Dallas and the sitting president, who won in what is now apparently a "racist," "xenophobic," "bigoted" country brimming with racist white hicks, speaks of the need to recognize that many cops go too far against minorities at their funeral. The same president who called the Pennsylvanians who rejected Hillary last night as "bitter clingers" and whose jobs have been outsourced or removed, whole industries downsized, with nary a care about their lot or the lot of their children, from the U.S.'s political and financial elites, and who, along with many others who excited by were declared "deplorables" and, to a large extent, "irredeemable" by Hillary Clinton.

And those are just rhetorical scrapings off of the tip of the proverbial iceberg. As you two noted, the media assault upon Trump and Trump fans was unceasing and doubtless contributed to the feeling among those voting for Trump that they were fighting for the insurrectionist rebel and underdog.

At a certain point, a backlash was inevitable.

Liberals today should thank their lucky stars that this occurred because the sad truth is that if these people did not find a political voice, at some point in the future a genuinely dangerous and sincerely racist figure might show up instead.

I've seen a litany of posts online from immigrants in the U.S. who, otherwise, I like, but who keep saying, "WHEN WILL THESE DEMOGRAPHICS CHANGE ALREADY? GO AWAY WHITEY!" et. al. I mean, I'm sorry, but a large grouping of whites have been feeling politically under siege with their kids taught to hate their ancestors' accomplishments for quite a while now. Is much of the resentment misdirected? Perhaps. Yet for one hundred years one of the most universally cherished concepts in the world is "the right to self-determination." It's what led to myriad complications and heartaches throughout the twentieth century and now the twenty-first. If, say, black South Africans have the sovereign right to attempt to control how many whites live there post-apartheid, for instance, do not populations of other countries get a say in their country's demographical future?

Also, when 29% of Hispanics--apparently--vote for you, you are probably not the cartoon character Nordicist seeking unyielding racial purity of the volk. Also interested to see how blacks voted, as well as Asians (know a few of each group who voted for Trump!). As noted, would hardly be surprised to learn that Trump received more votes from blacks than any GOP nominee in many, many years.

Hillary's talk of Vladimir Putin pulling Trump's strings was of course demagogic, fear-mongering nonsense that apparently no one bought aside from a few Democrats here and there, but there is an interesting comparison between Trump and Putin. Trump's rhetoric is brined in civic nationalism. Just as Putin talks a tough game and promotes the church, etc., but allows Russia's considerable Muslim population feel a part of the Russian fabric, it's difficult to find anything in Trump's speechifying to suggest that he wishes to simply ostracize minorities so long as they are American citizens. Both men, based on their statements (because that is the only way by which to judge Trump thus far) are pragmatic, center-right civic nationalists who find the reigning globalist system which seems to now be teetering on a certain precipice deeply wanting.

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Odds are even if they did know they wouldn't care and that's a HUGE fucking problem as far as I'm concerned. That's what our political system has come to. Someone as corrupt as Hillary Clinton came this fucking close to winning a Presidential election.

I hate both of these fuckers but there's no way I'd vote for someone as corrupt as Hillary Clinton, I don't care who the fuck it is or who the fuck they are running against.

This is just more evidence that we need more than two parties in this system. We need more than two parties invited to debates and until enough people see the fucking light and stop voting for these fucking pricks and start voting for third parties it'll never happen. Democrats and Republicans are thick as thieves when it comes to this. They will do whatever it takes to keep other parties out of the debate system. Those that don't see this are simply delusional.


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one question is now that hes won, can the celebrities just wait before he fucks up to say all this?

I mean he won sad for you but just wait till he fucks up ateast.

edit:am talking mainly about katy pery saying we wont let hate led us

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@CamillePunk the man pulling our strings, Vladimir Putin, is addressing the world on Russia Today!

How many rubles does each voter get again? (Not even sure if you voted for Camille. )



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Twitter had me rolling. The stuff people said yesterday in relation to Donald Trump leading over Hillary Clinton. Time will tell whether these doomsayers are the only sane people in an insane world or they're just insane.

I didn't want Trump or Hillary, but one of 'em had to win. All one can do is hope for the best now that it is over and wish whoever won good luck.
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"Liberals today should thank their lucky stars that this occurred because the sad truth is that if these people did not find a political voice, at some point in the future a genuinely dangerous and sincerely racist figure might show up instead. "

This needed to happen for sure Row. The amount of regressive lefts who dismiss anyone who disagrees with them as a racist or a sexist is wrong and needs to stop. Like Trump may say some very how do I put this not very smart things at times but I doubt he is a racist or a sexist.

People saying hilary did not get in cause she is a woman are fucking stupid. If she was a man she would not have even got as far as she did.

I am curious to see what trade deals we strike with Trump as he was very anti-EU so this may end up helping the UK if our government can get it's shit sorted and start planning for BREXIT. Setting us good trade links with Trump would be a good start
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