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#1 ·
What is your stance when somebody makes jokes about homosexuality, race, gender or illness?

How do you feel when somebody makes more serious homophobic, racist, sexist comments?


Homosexuality-
I'm not homosexual, nor do I closely know anybody who is homosexual, but I'm always passionately enraged when people speak of their opposition to it.

I cannot begin to understand why certain people are so strongly against others living the way they want to. What kind of person spends their life trying to devalue and make another persons life less happy?



Gender equality-
I'm equally, perhaps even innately more so, just as enraged when I hear genuine sexist comments made. For any person to think the male gender is superior due to the genitals they're born with is just pure ignorance.

First of all, please do not tell me you're an 'equalist' and not a 'feminist'; the word 'feminism' has now been riddled with so many negative connotations, in all actuality it simply means 'equality for women'. If you haven't figured it out, 'equality for women' means 'equality for all'.

I firmly believe there are double standards and injustices towards all genders, but in terms of serious oppression, women have always been coming up on the short end of the stick.

Secondly, I just want to kindly ask everybody to think more conscientiously about the sort of potentially sexist jokes you make. Whilst you may find them nonchalant, others may be rather offended by them. You may not understand why, but that doesn't mean you should continue to be knowingly disrespectful.



Race-
Now, this is a topic I don't feel as comfortable speaking on, given the fact that I am white and have never encountered any racism in my life.

That being said, I think those that harbor racist beliefs are the scum of the earth and are hatred filled humans that wish to make themselves feel superior.

I don't like to hear sexist jokes, therefore I become curious as to whether or not people mind hearing jokes made that are targeted towards their race?

I've never really found racist jokes amusing. I believe it only takes a small mind to come up with such nonsense. It's just as lazy and poor as toilet humour.




Mockery of Illness-
I never really thought about this one until recently. My mum has just come out the other end of aggressive cancer, I've seen how difficult it is for the sufferers and that it really is no joking matter.

We have made jokes about her hair loss and what not, but I would never make jokes towards others that I don't know.

When I see comedians make jokes in regards to general illness or cancer, it now kind of rubs me the wrong way. It's a sensitive issue and I don't believe it is something to just be thrown around and used as means for a cheap laugh.




I'm very curious to know how others feel about these issues. Have you ever been offended by comments made towards or around you?
 
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#2 ·
Only those with limited intelligence have a stance against race, homosexuality, gender equality and illness. Simple as that. Stupid cunts..
 
#4 · (Edited)
I think you can joke about everything or you can joke about nothing. I don't get offended by jokes, regardless of the content.

If someone has what I see as genuinely silly opinions based on race, beliefs, sexual orientation etc I don't give them the time of day
 
#25 ·
this so hard .. i wish reps meant something on this site... i'd give you money from my wallet

The only time a joke is bad is if it's mean spirited and fueled by hatred. But then it's not a joke at all it's hate speech.
If you get offended by a JOKE ..buckle down cause life is going to be hard for you. In fact I'm glad all the PC cunts get offended. If you're that void of life and humor ...GOOD I'm glad something hurts you.


My favorite quote on this topic is from a book ........


It’s condescending and patronizing not to make fun of someone because they’re old or stupid or cripple or morbidly obese. Banged up people don’t want your pity. They want to be treated like everyone else. Mockery , when done without prejudice or discretion , can be a form of respect. It’s the closest we’ll ever come to true equality - Apathy and Other Small Victories
 
#22 ·
Mister Abigail said:
As with everything, it depends on context and intent.
Exactly.

The point about jokes is...they're not meant to be taken seriously.
 
#10 ·
I don't see the problem with cracking jokes and light ribbing as long as nobody is offended by it. I'm ginger and all of my friends make jokes and rib me about it and I've had black friends and Muslim friends and we rib each other about everything. If anybody was getting offended or hurt, we'd stop because that's not what we're trying todo, we're just having a laugh. I think genuine racism, sexism or whatever is stupid, it's just plain ignorance. I think as long as nobody is offended, there isn't really a problem.
 
#11 ·
Jokes I don't care. It's all in fun and nothing should be off limits. Serious comments then I know I'm talking to an idiot. I disagree though with you on feminism. Modern feminism is not about equality imo. From what I've seen it's pretty terrifying. Those calling themselves equalist are just stressing they're for equality (what feminism was originally).
 
#15 ·
Sorry Curry, but I believe from the stars in the sky to the rocks in the ground to the person behind the screen are all one and the same. There is no separation, we are all one. And as such, the life of one does not matter. 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 is infinitesimal, you are irrelevant. If you were gone, no one would know you ever existed in 2 generations.

Shaming murders for doing something they were born accustomed to is no different than shaming people because they were born gay or born black.
 
#37 · (Edited)
It's totally ok to get offended. Anyone that refuses to be offended is just delusional.

That said, I'm not offended easily. It's about the execution of the joke. Anything can be funny. Murder and rape are practically impossible to make funny though for the record. You can make fun of the murderers, but the act itself...hard to see humor in it.

Sorry Curry, but I believe from the stars in the sky to the rocks in the ground to the person behind the screen are all one and the same. There is no separation, we are all one. And as such, the life of one does not matter. 1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 is infinitesimal, you are irrelevant. If you were gone, no one would know you ever existed in 2 generations.

Shaming murders for doing something they were born accustomed to is no different than shaming people because they were born gay or born black.
This is such a STACKS thing to post and I lol'd. Thanks.
 
#16 ·
I believe nobody is any better or worse based only on Race or sexuality. However I do not believe in giving anyone an advantage because of their identity. People are so full of PC BS that they get offended over anything. If some people had their way (usually spoiled ass white people with white people problems) you would not be able to make fun of anybody that happens to be of a genetic makeup other than pink skin. If I were to make a joke about a Mexican, even if it wasn't Racist, would you think I was Racist? Is everything Racist? We should not let our differences keep us apart, but we should celebrate our differences and get along without being the same.

It is to the point where I can't openly make fun of anybody, other than white people. Black, Mexican, Asian, Indian, Native American, Arab, Fat, Poor, Stupid, Gay, Jew, Left Wing, Right Wing, Religious, Not Religious, WHO CAN WE MAKE FUN OF ANYMORE? Anybody who is anything can say they are offended, even if they are not the target of the joke.

"A Mexican with lots of kids? That's offensive! I'm offended by that!"

"But you are white."

"I'm still offended!"

Like people actually have the right to go through life and never be offended by anything, ever.

And while we are on the topic, let me bring up something I find ridiculous. Why are people trained to associate the color pink with women and Homosexual Men? So just because a man wears something pink, "OH HE MUST BE GAY!" Bullshit. Why are you trying to monetize what kind of clothes I wear? I can't wear a pink or purple shirt without somebody mentioning it? What the fuck? You don't make the rules. I'll wear whatever the fuck I want, and I hate the stupid shit you wear and I never bring it up because no one has the right to decide how other people should dress.

Women still do not have the same rights as men. They should not have to be sexually harassed in the workplace. They should not be treated less because of their Gender. However most 'feminists' take things waaaaaaay too far and basically want the evil bad man pigs to be whipped into submission and do whatever the women want. Where's the happy medium?

Can I say something? I think the word ******* is hilarious. Not because it is racist, just the way it sounds. Jig-a-boo. That's a funny word. But why must we be so afraid of words? "Oh, he said THAT word!" DO NOT GIVE WORDS THAT KIND OF POWER! It is how a word is USED that makes it offensive. If I just say a word like *******, N***a (won't even type it because people will FREAK THE FUCK OUT!), ******, *******, Spits, Krauts, ***, Retard, Fat Fuck, just saying it doesn't make it offensive. But if someone says "Which no good ******* took the last donut?" then yes that is offensive.

Why is it okay to make fun of some people but not others? So it is okay to make fun of unattractive people and sluts, but even mention someone's ethnicity and oh God look out?! Using a word like 'Mexican' before another word can instantly make something Racist in people's minds.

What I am trying to say is that we should accept each other for who we are, and stop being so hung up on the differences. And stop overreacting to fake Racism while real Racism and prejudice lives on. And yet still, people will read this and think I am a Racist, when all I am really saying is something that has been said before: Try to love one another.

Besides, people in America should unite and focus their hate on those that deserve it: Those smelly Europeans. Am I right, European posters? It's okay, I can say that because my ancestors came from Europe. So to hell with the lot of ya, bunch of pale white people eating cheese... And don't worry, I'm only making fun of white people because that's the last group of people I can make jokes about without being told to go back to Alabama, Nazi.
 
#19 ·
Jokes are jokes, they don't bother me. I can make jokes about anyone. Now, when people act stupid and make what are truly ignorant statements, that annoys me.

For example, racist comments. I will call out anyone of any skin color (white, black, green) for racist statements. I would call anyone who uses the n-word ignorant. To me, there is no double standard.

Same with sexist comments. If a woman says something stereotypical about men, I will call them out for the comment. Just because you have a set of breasts doesn't excuse you from making these comments you'd bust me out for making because I happen to have a penis.

To me, it's about the double standard really. It's either all OK to make fun of, or nothing is. As it stands, whites, Christians, and fat people are the only ones left that you can make fun of without being shit on.
 
#23 ·
It's ridiculous. People should have thicker skins when it comes to shit like that or else how are they going to get through life without having a cry when race/gender/**** jokes or comments are made? The US are probably the worst at this yet the most racism/sexism/homophobia probably comes from them. Ironic isn't it?

Pure hate and inciting violence and persecution against a certain race/gender/**** is an entirely different story tho, but that's not what you're talking about are you OP?
 
#24 ·
It's ridiculous. People should have thicker skins when it comes to shit like that or else how are they going to get through life without having a cry when race/gender/**** jokes or comments are made? The US are probably the worst at this yet the most racism/sexism/homophobia probably comes from them. Ironic isn't it?

Pure hate and inciting violence and persecution against a certain race/gender/**** is an entirely different story tho, but that's not what you're talking about are you OP?
It really goes to show how superficial American society (at least public American) is. (No offense meant to Americans.)
 
#34 ·
jokes are fine, no person or group or anything should be immune from jokes even mean-spirited ones.

serious bigoted comments i'm not down with that.
 
#36 · (Edited)
I'm not one to be offended easily by this type of stuff. Heck, I actually find most of this stuff funny anyway. I feel like it's better to be carefree and lax about it, and not always be uptight and ready to be offended. Works with the rest of my personality as being relatively laid back.

But I can understand if there are those who aren't comfortable with some kinds of jokes. For example, if I was a rape victim or something, maybe I don't want people making rape jokes. That's a perfectly fine and understandable reason. If people are nice about it and tell me not to joke about certain things, I have no trouble in doing so.
 
#39 ·
Have no problems with jokes as long as the one who tells it doesn't tend to actually insult someone. Jokes are jokes. I find myself oftenly laughing at jokes about ukrainians (very popular among russians).

Couple if years ago it wasn't difficult to insult me with a joke if it somehow concerns me, but time passed and I realized that it's hypocritic to be mad at jokes that are somehow related to me, yet laughing at those that not touch me, but may hurt others.
 
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