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post #31 of 171 (permalink) Old 11-20-2012, 11:04 PM
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The whole anti-bullying campaign in the US has mainly been motivated by the gay organizations like GLAAD. There's no way to stop bullying in this country especially when it's been ingrained in this country's history since the beginning.

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post #32 of 171 (permalink) Old 11-20-2012, 11:21 PM
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That is true. I got bullied when I was younger. My parents put me in Wado Ryu Karate when they found out, and it gave me so much confidence that it changed my life completely in high school. Never got bullied again.
Doesn't work for everyone though..I knew a kid who took up boxing but constantly let himself get picked on..I asked him why doesn't he just fight and he just talked about how boxing is so much different than you standard school/street fight, that he felt what he learned wouldn't work..Not trying to undermine you guys or anything, just reading you guys posts reminded me of him
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Social networking wasn't around before, nowadays I'd say that makes and helps bullying be worse.

I don't see how trying to stop bullying makes people pussies, though. Maybe you'll be one of those parents that tell your kid that the world is shit and you gotta fight, not as a last resort but because it's the "manly" thing to do. But I won't, sure fighting has it's place, but it's not the solution in every situation.

Bullying sucks, the whole social circle thing sucks.
I'll be one of those parents who disciplines the child without going overboard, EDUCATES the kid without simply saying you can't do this and this without teaching the kid as to why. I'll teach the kid to always be confident, and stick up for yourself no matter what.

I'd rather my kid cops a beating or two on the road to garnering respect, than spend years cowering from people, copping it every day.

Telling the teachers won't do shit, will just make it worse. I want my kid to learn to stand on his own two feet.

As far as internet bullying goes, I suppose in this day and age you can't keep kids off the internet completely. But I'd encourage my kids to go out and play sport, go outside and play or do something creative rather than just sit on the internet all the time. If that means being a cunt and restricting the hours they may use the internet, so be it.


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post #34 of 171 (permalink) Old 11-21-2012, 02:17 AM
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Re: Want your kids to grow up to be a pussy?

My story is pretty similar to Dunk's. I was (verbally) bullied way before I got into HS (5th and 6th grade) and I couldn't do anything about it back then as I was physically inferior compared to those bullies. But once I got into HS, we all got along kinda well and after that it was quite easy for me. I never bullied anyone though, I stood up for the weak guys for a few times instead.
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post #35 of 171 (permalink) Old 11-21-2012, 02:37 AM
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The whole anti-bullying campaign in the US has mainly been motivated by the gay organizations like GLAAD. There's no way to stop bullying in this country especially when it's been ingrained in this country's history since the beginning.
Bullying isn't an American thing. It's a human thing. Predatory evolutionary instincts, survival of the fittest and all that. There really isn't a way to stop it other than evolving past the need to express dominance in ways that are deemed to be bullying.

The other part of evolving is stopping and reversing the trend of calling the smallest things bullying. Like anything else when you overuse a word it loses what impact it has. If half of what a kid does at school is bullying then it isn't going to seem all that bad, it'll seem like a normal thing to do.

But in general the pc/anti bullying/ pussification of the average American/sophisticated human being (it seems like it is real bad maybe worse in Europe sometimes.) is complete and utter bullshit. Cover your ass, fear mongering, scare tactic bullshit.




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bully, when we have children someday, maybe we can get together and have them fight; you know, for the children's sake.
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Agree with OP. A lot of people (not all) get bullied because they let themselves get bullied. An initial 'suck a dick' response to any verbal harrassment will nip it in the bud.

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Doesn't work for everyone though..I knew a kid who took up boxing but constantly let himself get picked on..I asked him why doesn't he just fight and he just talked about how boxing is so much different than you standard school/street fight, that he felt what he learned wouldn't work..Not trying to undermine you guys or anything, just reading you guys posts reminded me of him
Yeah with boxing, you are in a controlled setting with rules and stuff. I do a bit of boxing now for cardio, but I think for a kid, the best thing would be some form of karate as that teaches self defence and you can learn good holds, where you don't necessarily have to punch the person in the face, can get them into an arm bar or what not. Some of the holds can be pretty brutal if applied correctly.

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I was a really calm, nice kid who couldn't even make a fist without it feeling 'odd'. My parents had nothing to worry about with me, I didn't 'cause much trouble at all. I was bullied by some retard with terrible parents in my building in the shady parts of East Vancouver. He was actually my friend but he'd take his frustrations out on me. Anyway, outside of that I never got bullied in school or anything. Once I reached 5th grade and had to go to a school with a bad reputation for having 'bad kids'. I knew I couldn't carry on the way i was. So I changed, I stood up to people, I dressed differently to fit in. This one kid 2 years my senior tried to bully me and I wasn't gonna have it so I pushed him in to the lockers and got in his face. He became my bitch for the rest of the year and in fact would hide behind the recess ladies when he'd see me. I didn't become a bully after that in fact I just adapted, I was confrontational but I didn't take shit either, I never backed down from anything since then.

That kid form my building that used to bully me? Became a drug addict would never even think of fighting me now and I remember one time he almost OD'd outside the building and my dad and I helped to his house and I felt so bad for him because we were friends. I eventually realised as I got older that he was that way because his home life was just shit. A lot of it has to do with ones upbringing.



Yeah kids are certainly a product of their environment and parenting really does play a huge part in how their gonna turn out, particularly when they're in the developmental stage. Teachers also wear a brunt of the responsibility too.

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That is true. I got bullied when I was younger. My parents put me in Wado Ryu Karate when they found out, and it gave me so much confidence that it changed my life completely in high school. Never got bullied again.
That's the way. That's what every parent should do.

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bully, when we have children someday, maybe we can get together and have them fight; you know, for the children's sake.
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Aw little BULLY got bullied and now he is a bitter whiny little shit stain :yodawg




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Re: Want your kids to grow up to be a pussy?

I agree that people need to stand up for themselves when it comes to bullying, but that doesn't mean you have to necessarily resort to violence. When people tried to pick on me about 90% of the time I didn't even need to throw a punch, I just either verbally stood up for myself or just outsmarted them so they looked like idiots and never picked on me again. I know I'll probably get a negative response for saying this but I also found just ignoring them or rolling with it helped a lot seeing as Bullies really just either want someone who is going to squirm or give a reaction that's going to encourage it even more. I made sure they didn't get either.



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