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Re: American Politics

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To bad he never stood a chance. Looked like one of them none corrupt politicians.

They silenced him well as per any other selection.


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Well a big natural disaster or a war would certainly get peoples heads out of their asses. I know most don't want to here it, but its true
We already have wars and natural disasters unless you are talking about world wide catastrophic disasters and WW3 which I would not be a fan of.

Also don't we have that fake war on terror also? You know the one which can't never be won?

No we need some sort of global mind awakening. People need to start opening up their minds and I know it's hard to accomplish but so far history shows us that nothing is impossible.
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Re: American Politics

Looked like one of them non-corrupt politicians... who hates black people, he couldn't have won with the ammunition for Obama's billion dollar smear campaign out there.


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Looked like one of them non-corrupt politicians... who hates black people, he couldn't have won with the ammunition for Obama's billion dollar smear campaign out there.
That whole ordeal just looked like the media blowing it out of proportion and spinning it per usual.

If taken his whole agenda as a whole and not just tiny bits (since I myself disagree with some things he says) he is still seems like the right guy for the job at the moment.
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Re: American Politics

I agree, but also know he wouldn't win. It's not about who is better for the country, it's about making the other guy look worse.


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Re: American Politics

The biggest problem right now is the Super PAC. Quite literally, the US has legalized money laundering. I can donate 10,000 dollars to a Super PAC and they don't have to disclose who/where they got the money from. The only thing they have to do is disclose how they spent the money (which is usually a farce).

The only political commercials that should be allowed to be played are the ones that are produced and paid for by the candidate.


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Re: American Politics

i hope that people who dont vote dont whinge about their leaders

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I agree, but also know he wouldn't win. It's not about who is better for the country, it's about making the other guy look worse.
I knew it too...although it doesn't mean it was bad for him to stand up for what is right and tell it like it is and what should be done to restore U.S.

RP still became very popular (even if by a certain audience) during this election...so in all and all there was a win even if he never stood a chance.


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i hope that people who dont vote dont whinge about their leaders
People should not be forced to vote if this is election is a fraud....matter of fact more people should not vote and call it out for what it is...just another so called presidential reality show.
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Re: American Politics

Mitt Romney is a idiot, everyone with 300,000,000 dollars is.
Obama is smart he is a good socialist, socialism works.
Just look at California and Europe.

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Don't forget The American Idol and America Got Talent and all that other noise they put on the television screen.

Indeed bread and circus. Not much has changed since the Roman days has it?

But sooner or later you mistreat the people for long enough and they might just become angry.

As soon as the money start flowing down the river and more and more people get into really bad economic situations they will be forced to look passed their own political mantras and see things for what they are. Let's hope it's not to late by that time.
It already did when America started the war against Iraq

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Spent & Approved War-Spending - About $1 trillion of US taxpayers' funds spent or approved for spending through 2011.

Lost & Unaccounted for in Iraq - $9 billion of US taxpayers' money and $549.7 milion in spare parts shipped in 2004 to US contractors. Also, per ABC News, 190,000 guns, including 110,000 AK-47 rifles.

Lost and Reported Stolen - $6.6 billion of U.S. taxpayers' money earmarked for Iraq reconstruction, reported on June 14, 2011 by Special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction Stuart Bowen who called it "the largest theft of funds in national history." (Source - CBS News) Last known holder of the $6.6 billion lost: the U.S. government.

Missing - $1 billion in tractor trailers, tank recovery vehicles, machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and other equipment and services provided to the Iraqi security forces. (Per CBS News on Dec 6, 2007.)

Mismanaged & Wasted in Iraq - $10 billion, per Feb 2007 Congressional hearings

Halliburton Overcharges Classified by the Pentagon as Unreasonable and Unsupported - $1.4 billion

Amount paid to KBR, a former Halliburton division, to supply U.S. military in Iraq with food, fuel, housing and other items - $20 billion

Portion of the $20 billion paid to KBR that Pentagon auditors deem "questionable or supportable" - $3.2 billion

U.S. Annual Air-Conditioning Cost in Iraq and Afghanistan - $20.2 billion (Source - NPR, June 25, 2011)

U.S. 2009 Monthly Spending in Iraq - $7.3 billion as of Oct 2009

U.S. 2008 Monthly Spending in Iraq - $12 billion

U.S. Spending per Second - $5,000 in 2008 (per Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on May 5, 2008)

Cost of deploying one U.S. soldier for one year in Iraq - $390,000

TROOPS IN IRAQ

Troops in Iraq - No U.S. troops remain in Iraq. The last 13,000 U.S/ troops were withdrawn in December 2011.

U.S. Troop Casualties - 4,487 US troops; 98% male. 91% non-officers; 82% active duty, 11% National Guard; 74% Caucasian, 9% African-American, 11% Latino. 19% killed by non-hostile causes. 54% of US casualties were under 25 years old. 72% were from the US Army

Non-U.S. Troop Casualties - Total 316, with 179 from the UK

US Troops Wounded - 32,223, 20% of which are serious brain or spinal injuries. (Total excludes psychological injuries.)

US Troops with Serious Mental Health Problems - 30% of US troops develop serious mental health problems within 3 to 4 months of returning home

US Military Helicopters Downed in Iraq - 75 total, at least 36 by enemy fire

IRAQI TROOPS, CIVILIANS & OTHERS IN IRAQ

Private Contractors in Iraq, Working in Support of US Army Troops - More than 180,000 in August 2007, per TheNation.com..

Journalists killed - 150, 98 by murder and 52 by acts of war

Journalists killed by US Forces - 14

Iraqi Police and Soldiers Killed - 10,125, as of July 31, 2011

Iraqi Civilians Killed, Estimated - On October 22, 2010, ABC News reported "a secret U.S. government tally that puts the Iraqi (civilian) death toll over 100,000," information that was included in more than 400,000 military documents released by Wikileaks.com.

A UN issued report dated Sept 20, 2006 stating that Iraqi civilian casualties have been significantly under-reported. Casualties are reported at 50,000 to over 100,000, but may be much higher. Some informed estimates place Iraqi civilian casualities at over 600,000.

Iraqi Insurgents Killed, Roughly Estimated - 55,000

Non-Iraqi Contractors and Civilian Workers Killed - 572 as of August 30, 2011

Non-Iraqi Kidnapped - 306, including 57 killed, 147 released, 4 escaped, 6 rescued and 89 status unknown.

Daily Insurgent Attacks, Feb 2004 - 14

Daily Insurgent Attacks, July 2005 - 70

Daily Insurgent Attacks, May 2007 - 163

Estimated Insurgency Strength, Nov 2003 - 15,000

Estimated Insurgency Strength, Oct 2006 - 20,000 - 30,000

Estimated Insurgency Strength, June 2007 - 70,000

QUALITY OF LIFE INDICATORS

Iraqis Displaced Inside Iraq, by Iraq War, as of May 2007 - 2,255,000

Iraqi Refugees in Syria & Jordan - 2.1 million to 2.25 million

Iraqi Unemployment Rate - 27 to 60%, where curfew not in effect

Consumer Price Inflation in 2006 - 50%

Iraqi Children Suffering from Chronic Malnutrition - 28% in June 2007 (Per CNN.com, July 30, 2007)

Percent of professionals who have left Iraq since 2003 - 40%

Iraqi Physicians Before 2003 Invasion - 34,000

Iraqi Physicians Who Have Left Iraq Since 2005 Invasion - 12,000

Iraqi Physicians Murdered Since 2003 Invasion - 2,000

Average Daily Hours Iraqi Homes Have Electricity - 1 to 2 hours, per Ryan Crocker, U.S. Ambassador to Iraq (Per Los Angeles Times, July 27, 2007)

Average Daily Hours Iraqi Homes Have Electricity - 10.9 in May 2007

Average Daily Hours Baghdad Homes Have Electricity - 5.6 in May 2007

Pre-War Daily Hours Baghdad Homes Have Electricity - 16 to 24

Number of Iraqi Homes Connected to Sewer Systems - 37%

Iraqis without access to adequate water supplies - 70% (Per CNN.com, July 30, 2007)

Water Treatment Plants Rehabilitated - 22%

RESULTS OF POLL Taken in Iraq in August 2005 by the British Ministry of Defense (Source: Brookings Institute)

Iraqis "strongly opposed to presence of coalition troops - 82%

Iraqis who believe Coalition forces are responsible for any improvement in security - less than 1%

Iraqis who feel less ecure because of the occupation - 67%

Iraqis who do not have confidence in multi-national forces - 72%
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Re: American Politics

All Romney does is pander to lobbyists. Obama is the lesser of two evils but hasn't a damn clue about economics.


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