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The Who, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles were all massively influenced by Little Richard. I guess they must have stolen his style as well? Stairway to Heaven was not stolen or Black Dog or Whole Lotta Love or the Immigrant song.

Sounds like somebody is jealous.
A quote from Robert Plant about Whole Lotta Love - "Page's riff was Page's riff. It was there before anything else. I just thought, 'well, what am I going to sing?' That was it, a nick. Now happily paid for. At the time, there was a lot of conversation about what to do. It was decided that it was so far away in time and influence that...well, you only get caught when you're successful. That's the game."

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Whole Lotta Love?
http://earfarm.com/music/10%20You%20...e%20Dixon).mp3

Dazed and Confused


Those are just the ones off the top of my head. A quick google search will show a ton more. Oh yeah, check how many of their songs needed revised credits to include the original artists.

Sounds like someone is in denial.
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No. I live in a black neighborhood actually. My best friend is black as well.
So are you aware of Mos Def, Common, and Nas.

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So are you aware of Mos Def, Common, and Nas.
Hell, even the Roots. They at least play their own instruments.
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So are you aware of Mos Def, Common, and Nas.
I've heard of them, but don't know of any songs from them. Most of my friends are black/hispanic and most of them listen to rap and know I hate almost all of it.



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A quote from Robert Plant about Whole Lotta Love - "Page's riff was Page's riff. It was there before anything else. I just thought, 'well, what am I going to sing?' That was it, a nick. Now happily paid for. At the time, there was a lot of conversation about what to do. It was decided that it was so far away in time and influence that...well, you only get caught when you're successful. That's the game."

Stairway?


Whole Lotta Love?
http://earfarm.com/music/10%20You%20...e%20Dixon).mp3

Dazed and Confused


Those are just the ones off the top of my head. A quick google search will show a ton more. Oh yeah, check how many of their songs needed revised credits to include the original artists.

Sounds like someone is in denial.
Homage and ripping off are two different things. Stevie Ray Vaughan's Texas Flood and most of his riffs all sound similar to Albert King. It's called influence. Zeppelin put their own twist on it. It's not like Zeppelin were just a bunch of guys ripping off stuff, they brought their own style to the table and if you can't see it. You are just a hater.
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Homage and ripping off are two different things. Stevie Ray Vaughan's Texas Flood and most of his riffs all sound similar to Albert King. It's called influence. Zeppelin put their own twist on it. It's not like Zeppelin were just a bunch of guys ripping off stuff, they brought their own style to the table and if you can't see it. You are just a hater.
Lawsuits say otherwise. Excuses, excuses. You can keep blinding yourself with Jimmy Page's semen, but it doesn't change that they ripped a TON of shit off. Was the music good? Sure, but when it comes to their ability to create.. well, they're a great cover band.
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Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, Drake, Machine Gun Kelly, Wiz Khalifa,

why in the FUCK is Jigga grouped in with these scrubs?


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I've heard of them, but don't know of any songs from them. Most of my friends are black/hispanic and most of them listen to rap and know I hate almost all of it.
Try some of these:
















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Lawsuits say otherwise. Excuses, excuses. You can keep blinding yourself with Jimmy Page's semen, but it doesn't change that they ripped a TON of shit off. Was the music good? Sure, but when it comes to their ability to create.. well, they're a great cover band.
Wow. Jimmy Page's semen...how old are you? 10 years old?

Lawsuits are just that...lawsuits. Anyone can claim someone ripped off something, there are only so many chords on a guitar that something is going to sound similar. It happened to the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Tom Petty. Men at Work with the Down Under song. It goes on and on.

Don't be such a sheep. Why don't you try think for yourself? It actually might open you're mind up, a lot.

Back on topic though. The best Hip Hop album is either "It was Written" or "Me Against The World" followed closely by the Slim Shady LP.
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Wow. Jimmy Page's semen...how old are you? 10 years old?

Lawsuits are just that...lawsuits. Anyone can claim someone ripped off something, there are only so many chords on a guitar that something is going to sound similar. It happened to the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Tom Petty. Men at Work with the Down Under song. It goes on and on.

Don't be such a sheep. Why don't you try think for yourself? It actually might open you're mind up, a lot.

Back on topic though. The best Hip Hop album is either "It was Written" or "Me Against The World" followed closely by the Slim Shady LP.
I see.

Your logic is that if it's a rip = "homage", even, you know, when the original artists have to sue for song-writing/production credits. That totally makes sense. Really.
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