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post #61 of 81 (permalink) Old 05-25-2012, 09:47 AM
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1) No.

2) Getting to two cup finals and winning one, yes I was. There is no difference between finishing 5 and 8th. It's not 4th. Would I swap getting to two cup finals for finishing 5th? Hell no. He should of been given a another year.

3) Of course the club was embarrassed with how they handled it. They handled the whole thing wrong. First of all when Comolli was called into the ref's office, he shouldn't of said anything but prove it. Instead he told the ref what Suarez said and Suarez started to tell media from his country. The whole club was so amateur.

Let me ask you something, how do you feel about Martinez?
How can you be happy with the job he did but dislike coming 8th? Thats the biggest/key thing he did all year was lead us down the table into 8th. Carling Cup is a meaningless trophy for a club like Liverpool. He spent a huge amount of money on useless players, for new owners they want to see some return on their investment. It was time for him to go.

Martinez i like as a manager, but i don't feel that he is right for the Liverpool job right now. I don't want to see him get the WOY treatment which is exactly what i feel he would get. He is unproven as far as transfers go, and while he was able to lay the foundations and build sides like Wigan and Swansea i feel that building us is a different level so i'm not sure on him. I'd prefer AVB as i think that stylistically he can get us playing a better brand of football, and i think he'd do well for us. Its really hard staying up until 2, 3, 4 in the morning and watching the way we played last year. Whenever Carroll was on the field all we did was hoof it in the air to him and try to get him to do something. I feel that AVB can get us moving the ball around the ground, which is a much better style for a number of our players.

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So not a soccer/football/futbal (wanted to cover bases) fan in the least but am curious Rush how do you guys feel about Liverpool John Henry's ownership? ON the Bo Sox side we have been feeling like he has no passion for baseball and buying Liverpool was a mistake.
I don't feel like he understands how football works and the whispers of how they're trying to get the club run right now is such an American style of running a sports team. However he has given us money to spend in the transfer market last year (which was wasted by our manager) so i suppose its not surprising that he's apparently keen on having a director of football sign players and the manager has less involvement over that. Which i assume works in baseball where you can sign players based on stats and figures, not so much their style of play which doesn't vary a great deal. In football your manager has a certain style of coaching/philosophy that the team play by. To use 2 pretty cliched examples, Barcelona under various managers play a style of football known as tika-taka which is based around short passing and possession. Stoke on the other hand have a much more physical and less technically skilled team and so their gameplan is very different. Now while some managers adapt a style becuase of the way they played or because they were assistant under another manager, it usually is limited by the personnel the have on their team. Thus a manager will sign players to centre around his philosophy of coaching. If the manager doesn't have much of a say then its like trying to jam a square peg in a round hole.


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How can you be happy with the job he did but dislike coming 8th? Thats the biggest/key thing he did all year was lead us down the table into 8th. Carling Cup is a meaningless trophy for a club like Liverpool. He spent a huge amount of money on useless players, for new owners they want to see some return on their investment. It was time for him to go.

Martinez i like as a manager, but i don't feel that he is right for the Liverpool job right now. I don't want to see him get the WOY treatment which is exactly what i feel he would get. He is unproven as far as transfers go, and while he was able to lay the foundations and build sides like Wigan and Swansea i feel that building us is a different level so i'm not sure on him. I'd prefer AVB as i think that stylistically he can get us playing a better brand of football, and i think he'd do well for us. Its really hard staying up until 2, 3, 4 in the morning and watching the way we played last year. Whenever Carroll was on the field all we did was hoof it in the air to him and try to get him to do something. I feel that AVB can get us moving the ball around the ground, which is a much better style for a number of our players.



I don't feel like he understands how football works and the whispers of how they're trying to get the club run right now is such an American style of running a sports team. However he has given us money to spend in the transfer market last year (which was wasted by our manager) so i suppose its not surprising that he's apparently keen on having a director of football sign players and the manager has less involvement over that. Which i assume works in baseball where you can sign players based on stats and figures, not so much their style of play which doesn't vary a great deal. In football your manager has a certain style of coaching/philosophy that the team play by. To use 2 pretty cliched examples, Barcelona under various managers play a style of football known as tika-taka which is based around short passing and possession. Stoke on the other hand have a much more physical and less technically skilled team and so their gameplan is very different. Now while some managers adapt a style becuase of the way they played or because they were assistant under another manager, it usually is limited by the personnel the have on their team. Thus a manager will sign players to centre around his philosophy of coaching. If the manager doesn't have much of a say then its like trying to jam a square peg in a round hole.
oN our end it feels as if they have lost touch, and not sure what their direction should be, in baseball it is similar to football as the style of play can vary quite a bit, between long ball, small ball, moneyball, the last being what we have been dealing with the last few years. You are lucky as you are at the begining of the "honeymoon" if yuors ends up like ours did in the begining you will be happy, he brought us a championship (two actually) for the first time since the Bbae Ruth years (86 fucking years) but after that he bought a racing team then Liverpool and since then he appears to be fading away on us, worst collapse in baseball history last Sept., either way thanks, have been curious about the feelings on the other side of the pond

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i'm not from england


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Had to. She's pretty.

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I'm guessing this is now a Frankie Appreciation thread. Better than what it originally was for....what was it again?

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henderson a top player

i guess if you dont look world class next to adam, spearing and downing you're pretty fucking shit

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i'm not from england
ah, did not know

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Kenny is a horrible manager

he sold the greatest midfielder of this generation MRLSH to us!

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Yes, a manager that has won 4 league titles and 2 FA Cups and built probably Liverpool's most exciting team ever back in the late 80s, is horrible manager. Jesus.
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