About time we made a Puro thread seeing as there's an Indy one and it deserves a seperate thread. You can use this to discuss any Puro matches or shows, past or present.
I've just finished this awesome set so I may as well get the thread up and running with some ratings for it.
ivp's Top 25 Matches in NOAH History
Disc 1
25. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger & Koji Kanemoto vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi - January 26th 2003 - Kobe World Hall ***1/2
24. Mitsuharu Misawa & Yoshinari Ogawa vs. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA - April 25th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ****1/2+
23. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger vs. Makoto Hashi - March 6th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ***3/4
Disc 2
22. Kenta Kobashi vs. Minoru Suzuki - January 8th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ***3/4
21. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikio vs. Takeshi Morishima & Muhammad Yone - April 1st 2007 - Tokyo Korakuen Hall ****1/4
20. Naomichi Marufuji & Minoru Suzuki vs. Makoto Hashi & Jun Akiyama - July 18th 2005 - Tokyo Dome ****
19. Jun Akiyama & Takeshi Rikio vs. Yoshihiro Takayama & Takashi Sugiura - April 28th 2007 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ***3/4
Disc 3
18. Kenta Kobashi & Yoshihiro Takayama vs. Jun Akiyama & Mitsuharu Misawa - December 2nd 2007 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ****1/4
17. Akira Taue vs. Yuji Nagata - June 6th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ***1/2
16. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Makoto Hashi - September 12th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ****1/4
Disc 4
15. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito vs. Kenta Kobashi & Tamon Honda - June 6th 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ****1/4
14. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Juventud Guerrera & Ricky Marvin - November 1st 2003 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ****1/4
Disc 5
13. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA vs. Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Takashi Sugiura - June 5th 2005 - Sapporo Media Park Spica ****1/2
12. Takeshi Rikio & Takeshi Morishima vs. Naomichi Marufuji & KENTA - July 16th 2006 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ****1/2
11. KENTA vs. SUWA - September 18th 2005 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ****1/4
Disc 6
10. Kenta Kobashi vs. Akira Taue - September 10th 2004 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ****1/2
9. Kenta Kobashi & Kentaro Shiga vs. Jun Akiyama & Akitoshi Saito - 19th October 2002 - Tokyo Korakuen Hall ****
8. Naomichi Marufuji vs. KENTA - October 29th 2006 - Tokyo Nippon Budokan ****3/4+
Well, All Japan has backing from Sanrio, which owns the massively popular Hello Kitty, so they're not going anywhere any time soon... NOAH has no real backers. NTV was backing them and giving them national TV, but they dropped them and only air them on G+, which is a pay satellite channel... They were even paying most of the rent on their Nippon Budokan shows, but even stopped doing that. Zero-One has First On Stage, who are mysterious themselves... I remember hearing rumors that most of the people in FOS are from DSE, which owned PRIDE and started HUSTLE before backing out with the yakuza controversy... So, IDK. NOAH's also burned tons of bridges with just about everyone - they practically had to beg New Japan to start working with them again, because of what Ryo Nakata (NOAH President) wanted.
Actually Marufuji is doing a descent job, for practically being forced into the position, but he took it with open arms. Marufuji has been putting over people as of late, and in a sense is looking to build up something more with NJPW. One of the main issues with NOAH is most of their talent are of the older age, and the young talent that they do have are Junior's through and through. I mean the strongest young heavyweight that they got is obviously Shiozaki, but he can't carry the company alone in the next 5 years. I would put Taniguchi in the hunt as well, but by the time he finally starts picking up steam he'll end being like Makabe at being a 38 year old champion.
One thing NOAH needs to do is start searching for some actual Heavyweight contenders, otherwise the company will have to adapt to the Juniors, and I can already see the "marks" starting to throw a fit about that already...
Thinking of the real truth though, and this is a "if statement" that once Akiyama and Kobashi officially retire, that'll be a sign of things looking down for NOAH. If NOAH "would" go under I could see a lot of positives outshining the negatives, because it could do nothing but strengthen any of the other promotions that would pick up the residual talent of the split.
NWA World Junior Heavyweight Title Match - 2 out of 3 Falls
Ken Mantell(c) vs. Jumbo Tsuruta (12/05/1974) - ***1/4 (This started out slow, but well. Both guys applied submissions and the other showed their strength by getting out of it. It really picked up going into the 2nd fall as Tsuruta just got aggravted with Mantell and began chasing after him. I don't know Japanese, but my guess will be that the 3rd fall was thrown out due to both guys going over the top rope to the floor)
NWA World Heavyweight Title & PWF Heavyweight Title Match - 2 out of 3 Falls
Shohei "Giant" Baba vs. Jack Brisco (12/05/1974) - ***3/4 (This one started out reaaallly slow, with the first ten minutes or so being on the mat. These matches are just so much different than what you see these days you gotta appreciate them for what they are. I actually enjoyed watching Baba wrestle, it was my first time seeing him. He wasn't bad. These first two matches aren't advertised to be 2/3 falls matches on the box, so it was a little surprising after the first fall to see they were still going. Overall this was quite a good contest, pretty long as you'd expect. I really enjoyed the third fall as each guy gave it their all. The end looked a little botched, but it didn't matter in this time period)
The Spirit vs. Samson Kutsuwada (07/19/1975) - **1/2 (Well that was not what I saw coming. I'm not familiar with either of these two, all I know is The Spirit's in ring antics remind me of The Sheik and his voice sounds like Sgt. Slaughter. haha, good combo. Anyway the match was based around The Spirit pulling out a blade from his tights and he actually cut Samson repeatedly and headbutted him and everyone got pissed at him for it. That's about it. The guy bled like a dog though)
NWA World Tag Team Title Match - 2 out of 3 Falls
Terry Funk & Dory Funk Jr.(c) vs. Jumbo Tsuruta & Shohei "Giant" Baba (02/05/1975) - ****1/4 (Another one of those unadvertised 2/3 falls matches. Which makes me wonder, were all title matches in this era in Japan automatically two out of three? Regardless, this was the best match on the disc as I anticipated and the longest, going near 30 minutes i believe. It really picks up in the 3rd fall as there were some actual nearfalls and some exciting stuff. Kinda had the same ending as the Baba/Brisco match, but loked better. Terry looked like he was wrestling before his time as he just had so much energy all the time. I'd love to see him and Jumbo go one on one. Good way to end the disc. Not a bad 4 match set, I'm sure a more educated puro fan or someone who's a fan of wrestling in the 70s will appreciate this more)
Marufuji has got to be the 2010 MVP of Puro, that man is everywhere! He went from a long absence in the ring to one professional wrestlings most busy men, even if you don't appreciate his style, that dude works 10x harder than even John Cena.
'Fuji or Davey will probably be the wrestler of the year, Maru is having better performances than anyone in WWE or TNA this year.
Downloading the NOAH 10th anniversary summer navigation show as we speak, very excited, I'm hearing such good things. Prob gonna skip to the good stuff though, anyone know if Kenta & Edwards vs Devitt & Taguchi is any good?
Downloading the NOAH 10th anniversary summer navigation show as we speak, very excited, I'm hearing such good things. Prob gonna skip to the good stuff though, anyone know if Kenta & Edwards vs Devitt & Taguchi is any good?
lmao, I guess you have not seen Makabe wrestler because that is funny, lol.
I really wanted to like Makabe vs. Shiozaki, but the truth is that it was not the match I was expecting. I am not usually critical on wrestlers or matches, but as far as an (Japan) MVP goes, Marufuji is a top choice no matter which way you look at it. I would even say Devitt could make the cut as an MVP player as well, the boy got a huge pop from the New Japan fans.
I can validly solidify that Marufuji is MVP caliber mainly because the man always brings something new to the table, especially in his match against Prince Devitt at the Dominion show. I mean his technical skills are few and far between, and he knows how to make someone look very good in the ring, ask Tiger Mask about that one. I can pretty much bet that someone will easily find something to throw against Marufuji, but you know what? I have yet to hear a single good argument to why he gets all the hate that he does. Call it jealousy, call it a bit of hatred for the man who Misawa placed under his wing.
I am actually to the point that I am ready to give up on Forums, all together, not because I no longer care, but because of all the one sided opinions about certain wrestlers.
I myself dislike John Cena to a "T", but I will give the man credit where it is due with him being a very powerful marketing tool for the WWE. The man has charisma that is few and far between nowadays, but it is a shame he takes so much of a hit to his in-ring abilities.
I guess you could say the exact opposite can be for Marufuji, but what he lacks "talking" to the crowd, he makes up for being able to get the fans attention by putting on a clinic in the ring. At the end of the day, I watch wrestling to see an exactly played match, not a who has the best voice contest.
I wouldn't say I have a one-sided opinion on certain wrestlers, I think I just need to wake up and stop living in 2008 when it comes to Maru, when he was "Throw 5 billion thrust kicks, shiruani, match over." I do, however, hold a one-sided opinion when it comes to Tiger Mask IV. Robotic as fuck, anti-climatic as all hell; makes me wonder why Sayama wanted to put the mask on him in the first place.
I guess I can actually see more in Marufuji than everyone else can't. I just say watch Maru/Devitt if you can't see something good in that, I guess I am alone then.
I would put Yamato up there, but I suspect "Yoshino" will now get a bump into the category as well.
That is why Sayama is introducing Tiger Mask V here sometime soon ... if I can find the flier I will post it.
Just an unbelievable effort from everybody on the card, top to bottom. Attendance was 9000+ for this event, and I guarantee it'll be even bigger next year, as this was probably the greatest World show in DG history. While Hulk/Shingo & YAMATO/Yoshino will be the talked-about contests, the Twin Gate match deserves heaps of praise. The Elimination Tag was pure fun, as was the comedy match, which was...actually funny. The opener was better than expect, but the Triangle Gate match was a bit of a letdown, not totally unexpected given the particular Osaka guys involved. I must also say that I was slightly disappointed in Hulk/Shingo...but only barely. It's still the brutal, heated, insane match you'd expect from these two with one helluva post-match segment. Overall, it's the most fun I've had watching a wrestling show this year.
So, I just want to say, Fuck Taguchi. Fuck him in the ass with the LA Raiders.
I nominate him for Tiger Mask V, so that Tiger Mask Iv won't look so bad.
That's how awful he was in the match with Devitt against KENTA and Edwards. Edwards had a good enough performance to have the otherwise silent crowd cheering like crazy for him, KENTA and Devitt bring their usual excellence, and then Taguchi tags in and its crappy, slow, sloppy offense that I couldn't care less about. Then.............they put him over! WTF? Ruined an otherwise good match.
Also, I'm not understanding all the hype for Marufuji/Kanemoto. Slow, directionless, lost, usual 2010 MArufuji bullshit. Finish was great, especially as Kanemoto finally picked a bodypart. (I'll work his back, naa, wait, how bout his leg? O wait, that's right, all my finishers focus on the neck. Ready? Break!) But seriously, its not enough to make up for a very bad first 2/3rds of the match.
found this on another forum (credit to d232009), interesting stuff..
There's an Marufuji interview that's been going around the net. It's causing a bit of buzz since it hints the direction NOAH will be heading in the future.
In the beginning of the Interview, Marufuji said that NOAH will be going through some Drastic changes over the course of the year. Notably the recruiting of Rookies & The continuation of NOAH's feud with New Japan.
Marufuji said that he is the head trainer of the NOAH Dojo and they are on search of prospects all across Japan.
He addressed the current Feud with NJ and told the interviewer that most of the NOAH Guys (Specifically KENTA) are disappointed with NOAH losing most of the interpromotional matches. Marufuji suggested to KENTA & Maru's friend/Tag Partner Atsushi Aoki to invade New Japan. Marufuji said that if Aoki invades New Japan, it will help him gain experience and gain confidence as he believes Aoki will be a Championship Player and will be a Big part in the Future of NOAH. Marufuji said that Aoki is the best tag partner KENTA can find right now since he's currently busy with his Vice Presidential Duties.
Marufuji concluded the interview by saying that NOAH is currently facing a ton of challenges but he is optimistic that NOAH's future will be bright again and the Changes in the Promotion have already begun.
Also, results and news from today's shows in Osaka:
NOAH "PRO-WRESTLING NOAH 10TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION 2ND SHOW ~ NEW NAVIGATION 2010 IN OSAKA", 7/24/10 (PPV)
Osaka Prefectural Gymnasium
3,500 Fans
1. Taiji Ishimori & Ricky Marvin defeated Asian Cougar Image & Kanjuro Matsuyama Image (13:47) when Ishimori used a 450 Splash on Matsuyama.
2. Akira Taue & Masao Inoue defeated Takashi Okita Image & Kento Miyahara Image (9:59) when Inoue used a Cradle on Okita.
3. Mohammed Yone, Yoshinobu Kanemaru & Genba Hirayanagi defeated Takuma Sano, Akitoshi Saito & Masashi Aoyagi (9:02) when Kanemaru used a Reverse Cradle on Aoyagi.
4. Yoshihiro Takayama & Yoshinari Ogawa defeated Takeshi Morishima & Katsuhiko Nakajima (12:14) when Ogawa used a Backdrop Hold on Nakajima.
5. Shuhei Taniguchi "Rush" 10 Match Series 9th: Takashi Sugiura defeated Shuhei Taniguchi (15:17) with the Olympic Slam.
6. Special Tag Team Match: Shinsuke Nakamura & Gedo defeated Naomichi Marufuji & Atsushi Aoki (18:23) when Nakamura used the Boma Ye on Aoki.
7. Special Singles Match: Kensuke Sasaki defeated Go Shiozaki (33:36) with the Northern Lights Bomb.
8. Special Tag Match: Jun Akiyama & KENTA defeated Yuji Nagata & Ryusuke Taguchi (22:24) when Akiyama used a Wrist Clutch Exploder on Taguchi.
- Momo No Seishun Tag (Atsushi Kotoge & Daisuke Harada) attacked Ishimori & Marvin after Match #1.
- Satoshi Kojima appeared after Match #5 and cut a promo in the ring. He told the fans in attendance that he was personally invited by NOAH Vice President Naomichi Marufuji. He said that he plans on participating on some NOAH shows in the future. Then he said that he's scouting Go Shiozaki whom he'll face in the G1 Climax. He ended the promo by wishing Marufuji good luck on his match.
- After Match #6, Marufuji challenged Satoshi Kojima to a match. Kojima accepted it quickly and shook Marufuji's hand.
- Go/Kensuke was said to be very reminiscent of the Kobashi/Kensuke match that happened 5 years ago with the Trademark Chop Battle.
- KENTA was bleeding early on and still managed to continue although he might have lost a lot of blood. The ending saw KENTA lariating Nagata through the outside with KENTA wipping his blood on Nagata's face while Akiyama dropped Taguchi with the Wrist Clutch Exploder.
- The Last 3 Matches were said to be pretty good.
DDT "RYOGOKU PETER PAN 2010 SUMMER VACATION", 25.07.2010 (Samurai! TV)
Tokyo Ryogoku Kokugikan
8,800 Fans - Super No Vacancy
0. KO-D Tag Team Title: Sanshiro Takagi & Munenori Sawa Image (c) defeated Jun Kasai Image & Kamui Image (16:30) when Sawa used an Octopus Hold on Kamui in the Bathroom (7th defense).
1. Daisuke Sasaki, Takao Soma & Kazuki Hirata defeated Shigehiro Irie, Tatsuhiko Yoshino & Akihito (11:21) when Soma used a Diving Guillotine Drop on Akihito.
2. UWA Trios Title, Jiyugaoka Six Man Tag Team Title & Nihonkai Six Man Tag Team Title, 3 Way Match: Great Kojika Image, Mr. #6 & Riho (c) defeated Hikaru Sato, Keisuke Ishii & YOSHIHIKO (c) & KUDO, Yasu Urano & Antonio Honda (c) (12:02) when Riho used the Kurukuru Ribbon on Honda - UWA Trios & Jiyugaoka Six Man Tag Team Title Switch, Nihonkai Six Man Tag Team Title 1st Defense.
3. KO-D Tag Team Title Contendership Tournament - Finals, Gauntlet Match: MIKAMI & Tanomusaku Toba defeated Manabu Nakanishi Image & Poison Sawada JULIE (10:39) when MIKAMI used the Volcanic Bomb on JULIE. Order of Elimination: Muscle Sakai & Jiro Hachimitsu defeated Goro Tsurumi & Tomimitsu Matsunaga (5:41) when Jiro used an Ankle Hold on Matsunaga. Toru Owashi & Yukihiro Abe defeated Muscle Sakai & Jiro Hachimitsu (2:03) when Abe used a School Boy on Sakai. MIKAMI & Tanomusaku Toba defeated Toru Owashi & Yukihiro Abe (5:14) when Toba used the La Magistral on Abe.
4. TAJIRI Image defeated Dick Togo (6:22) with a Cradle.
5. One-Year Contract War - Captain's Fall No DQ Match: Sanshiro Takagi, Michael Nakazawa (c) & Munenori Sawa Image defeated Yago Aznable (c), MA Hoshitango & Annabel Taro Image (14:05) when Nakazawa used the Firebird Splash on Yago.
6. Naomichi Marufuji Image defeated Kenny Omega (20:06) with a Modified Brainbuster.
7. Umemura Pasokon-juku Sponsored Handicap Match: Danshoku Dino defeated HG & RG (14:13) with a Cross Knee Hold on HG.
8. KO-D Openweight Title: HARASHIMA defeated Daisuke Sekimoto Image (c) (24:21) with the Swandive Somato - Title Switch.
- Former New Japan Ring Announcer Kero Tanaka opened the show along with Michael Nakazawa. Nakazawa was shown a footage of what happened to him on Last Year's Sumo Hall Show.
- Kyohei Wada was the ref for some of the matches.
- Order of entry for the Gauntlet: Matsunaga & Goro, Sakai & Hachimitsu, Owashi & Abe, MIKAMI & Toba, JULIE & Nakanishi.
- JULIE & Nakanishi didn't get along which lead to JULIE giving Nakanishi the Poison Spell.
- Possible reason for the TAJIRI/Togo match being short is TAJIRI's Knee Injury.
- Kota Ibushi cut a promo after intermission and wished Omega luck.
- Marufuji injured his arm during the match. It was taped out immediately as soon as the match ended.
- After Match #7, Dino asked HG if he is still gonna quit wrestling. Then a VTR featuring Genichiro Tenryu was placed and urged HG to continue. After the VTR, HG told everyone that he is made for pro-wrestling and thus he is staying. Then, HG & Dino hugged and maked out.
- It was announced at the end of the show that another Ryogoku Peter Pan will be held next year.
"Michael Nakazawa's Space Oddity is just too hard to explain. After he won his match he seemed to launch himself into space (seen on the video screen) to finish off the alien invasion crew.
(...) At the end they announced next years show, all the DDT guys hit the ring and the crowd using their mobile phones managed to light up Sumo Hall and guide Michael Nakazawa down from space and safely back to the stage"
The legendary Manami Toyota will be making her American debut in Chikara Pro on September 18th in Baltimore, MD and September 19th in Brooklyn, NY! Word right now is that she will be hand picking her opponents for both nights.
It gets worse, McQueen. Dave Prazak posted this on the SHIMMER boards.
Toyota is only working for CHIKARA when she is in the United States in September. We tried to put a deal together to have her appear for both SHIMMER and CHIKARA in the same trip, but her schedule would not allow for it to happen. Toyota has always dreamed of wrestling in NYC, and is also making the trip to visit with friends in that area. She will only be in the country for less than one week. The timing and circumstances meant that CHIKARA will have the exclusive honor of hosting her first match on American soil. Everyone who has the chance to head to NY to check out the CHIKARA event, show your support!
The hardest worker in Puro today pays for his gruelling schedule once again, that sucks.
All Japan is very hit and miss, Jr. Heavyweights = HIT Everything else = Miss.
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