Originally Posted by austinrockera

Complicated gym equipment is overrated. Don't get me wrong, for people with a bad back, standing military BB press isn't good for them so some different equipment is a necessity.

If you look at some of the Ronnie Coleman DVDs, (btw, Ron Coleman is the greatest bodybuilder of all time), you will see that he didn't do complicated stuff, he just did basic movements, and lifted heavy and lifted alot. It actually works, that and proper dieting will do you wonders. The other piece of the equation helps, ALOT, but it doesn't do magic, you have to do the other two for results.