"On last night’s show, Styles and Joe were completely overshadowed by Rhino and Team 3-D. At one point, Brother Ray came right out and said to Styles and Joe that he knows what it’s like to be “down here” when you’re trying to get “up there,” as he raised his hand from below his waist to above his head. Translation: Even though Styles and Joe have both been TNA world champion and headlined TNA pay-per-views, they never made it in WWE like Rhino and Team 3-D did, so they haven’t really accomplished anything in the business."
He's totally right.

Imagine how good TNA could be without all the vetarans (except for Angle maybe). Styles and Joe maineventing PPVs and the Guns fighting Beer Money for the tag titles...