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Old 05-17-2008, 09:03 PM   #25 (permalink)
Don Frye
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Default Re: Has-Beens and TNA.

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Proving my point that you are not a fan of TNA of old, but a fan of TNA of new.

Wait, you're whole point in this topic is that I didn't watch TNA before 2005? I thought your point was that old = suck.

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The funny thing about it is, TNA was doing as well ratings-wise without these guys as they are WITH them.

That's not an indicator of what's wrong with TNA, that's an indicator of Spike TV once AGAIN failing to promote wrestling at any other times then when wrestling was actually on. Spike's promotion failures was a major reason that ECW died, a minor reason RAW's been dropping in the ratings over the years it was there. It's why RAW moved back to the USA network. TNA's gotten similar ratings as they did on Fox Sports Net. The thing is, the Russo tactics that may have worked for a quick ratings boost in 2000 don't work anymore.

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Which also proves my point that they don't NEED to be doing this. They'd probably be even MORE successful now with what they were doing, which was establishing their own talent. You damn Noobie.

You're telling me nothing I don't already know. However, I have no influence backstage in TNA, so it's rather pointless to do so.

I joined this forum an entire year before you did and you're calling ME a n00b? Lmao, nice try imbecile.

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Those guys haven't lost a step. How long have you really watched those guys. Cause I watched the Steiner Bros back when they won the NWA tag titles from the Midnight express, and then had the belts renamed to the wcw world tag titles. I can tell you one thing, Steiner hasn't lost one step since then, he's lost about 10 steps.

I've watched wrestling only since 2004, but I've gone back and watched my fair share of older stuff. Scotty Steiner never moved around much, back in the day he was a tag specialist so he only had to work half a match. Nowadays he moves just as slowly, but gets impressive results out of it? Did you watch Sacrifice? He WAS the main event. Joe continues to become softer and less interesting and Kazarian was just out of his league.

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Booker T never lost a step because he never had much of one. But he was 10x more entertaining in Harlem Heat than he ever was meant to be again. He cuts a solid promo. But great wrestler he is not. He was marketed well by WCW and that's why he became a successful singles wrestler. Anybody can be established if you market them correctly.

A minute ago you were talking about Booker T as having lost steps in the ring and now you're going on about his entertainment value? It's like you can't decide what to make your argument about. Your arguments have more holes in them then a hanging chad. I take it that maybe you have forgotten that Booker T also wrestled TWO awesome best of 7 series against Chris Benoit. Booker can get down and dirty and wrestle. In your words, Booker became a good wrestler because he was marketed well? That's horseshit. Booker became a good wrestler because he learned how to wrestle. Ever since he's gotten to TNA, he's been all about putting people over as well. Robert Roode's been a real beneficiary of this attitude.

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I'm sure your a big WWE fan too, and I bet you love Cena and Batista. Well these guys a simply products of marketing a gimmick. All they are all they will be. Neither is a great wrestler, or even a good one. Booker is no different, SUCKA

The old saying goes "assuming makes an ass out of you and me." That's only half true in this case. I have NEVER been a John Cena fan (I don't like rap at all and I think he's as generic as one can be in the ring). I marked for Batista one time, in 2005 when he turned on Triple H and put him through a table. That was in my dumb mark days, but still then I marked more because I hated Triple H than loved Batista. Booker T, however, is a good wrestler, a good but not great speaker, and hasn't diminished at all since leaving WWE. Now can you dig that?
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