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#1 ·
It's a new year so we decided a new ratings thread would be suitable. Discuss all ratings related topics in here please. Let the shit storm begin...again.
 
#4,883 · (Edited)
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Hour 1 - 4.129 million
Hour 2 - 4.291 million
Hour 3 - 4.151 million
All hours about 4 million? Nice. Considerably down from last year though, but still, good enough. We still have one more Raw before football starts (?), so if that does all above 4 million as well, and then it only goes slightly below 4 million from there... I think that'd be fine.

Hour 2 tops the night, and while that is probably due to Punk/Axel (as I can't recall there being anything else major during that hour), I wouldn't say for certain that that tops the night, because the average isn't that far apart from the other two. Opening segment could do best of the night considering it had HHH, and same thing for the overrun, which is what I do expect to top the night. I'd be shocked if the 10PM was what did the peak of the night.

Edit:

Oh, as far as the 9PM/10PM/11PM advantages... judge for yourselves with these numbers:

9PM:
8/19: 500,000 (3.3)- Dolph Ziggler vs. The Shield
8/12: 560,000 (3.2)- Vince/Maddox/HHH
8/5: 420,000 (??)- Cena/Orton/Shield
7/29: 361,000 (3.06)- Ziggler/Big E
7/22: 373,000 (3.19)- Henry/The Shield/Usos + Ziggler/Young
7/15: 273,000 (3.19)- Ziggler vs. Del Rio
7/8: 424,000 (3.41)- Henry/Cena
7/1: 217,000 (2.98)- Kane vs. Orton
6/24: 333,000 (??)- Jericho vs. Del Rio
6/17: 248,000 (3.13)- Bryan vs. Orton


10PM:
8/19: 400,000 (3.6)- Punk/Heyman/Axel
8/12: 560,000 (3.3)- Bryan/Cena Miz TV
8/5: ????? (3.1)- Punk vs. Axel and Lesnar interference
7/29: 60,000 (2.9)- Bryan/Kane
7/22: 201,000 (3.07)- Punk/Heyman
7/15: 498,000 (3.41)- Punk/Heyman/Lesnar
7/8: 553,000 (3.55)- Vickie/Vince/Stephanie/HHH
7/1: 21,000 (3.0)- Punk-Axel vs. Prime Time Players
6/24: 117,000 (3.21)- Punk/Heyman
6/17: 738,000 (3.57)- Henry/Cena

11PM:
8/19: 670,000 (3.6)- Bryan/HHH/Orton/Vince/Stephanie/Shield
8/12: 400,000 (3.5)- Punk/Heyman/Lesnar
8/5: 700,000 (3.4)- Cena-Bryan-Orton/The Shield
7/29: 769,000 (3.29)- Cena/Ryback with Bryan coming out at the end
7/22: 331,000 (3.2)- Bryan vs. Ryback and Cena coming out
7/15: 669,000 (3.41)- Cena picking Bryan for Summerslam
7/8: 48,000 (3.13)- Punk vs. Orton with Bryan run-in
7/1: 567,000 (3.25)- Cena vs. Del Rio and Henry/Ziggler coming out
6/24: 104,000 (2.92)- Bryan vs. Orton
6/17: 636,000 (3.42)- Punk vs. Del Rio and Lesnar/Ziggler coming out

Overrun is fairly secured and the safest place as far as overall rating/gains are. 10PM I'd say is second as it has some great gains and generally had better quarters. 9PM's gains are more consistent than 10PM's, but their quarter ratings are lower than 10PM's.

In fact, 9PM hasn't peaked the night in at least 2 months.

Going back, last time 9PM did peak the show was for March 18th, which had Taker/Punk's feud in it. :taker :punk2
 
#4,902 ·
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11PM:
8/19: 670,000 (3.6)- Bryan/HHH/Orton/Vince/Stephanie/Shield
8/12: 400,000 (3.5)- Punk/Heyman/Lesnar
8/5: 700,000 (3.4)- Cena-Bryan-Orton/The Shield
7/29: 769,000 (3.29)- Cena/Ryback with Bryan coming out at the end
7/22: 331,000 (3.2)- Bryan vs. Ryback and Cena coming out
7/15: 669,000 (3.41)- Cena picking Bryan for Summerslam
7/8: 48,000 (3.13)- Punk vs. Orton with Bryan run-in
7/1: 567,000 (3.25)- Cena vs. Del Rio and Henry/Ziggler coming out
6/24: 104,000 (2.92)- Bryan vs. Orton
6/17: 636,000 (3.42)- Punk vs. Del Rio and Lesnar/Ziggler coming out
You know whats funny. If you strike out the overruns which involves any of the top 5 stars that is Rock/Lesnar/HHH/taker/Cena from here, you get this -

8/19: 670,000 (3.6)- Bryan/HHH/Orton/Vince/Stephanie/Shield
8/12: 400,000 (3.5)- Punk/Heyman/Lesnar
8/5: 700,000 (3.4)- Cena-Bryan-Orton/The Shield
7/29: 769,000 (3.29)- Cena/Ryback with Bryan coming out at the end
7/22: 331,000 (3.2)- Bryan vs. Ryback and Cena coming out
7/15: 669,000 (3.41)- Cena picking Bryan for Summerslam
7/8: 48,000 (3.13)- Punk vs. Orton with Bryan run-in
7/1: 567,000 (3.25)- Cena vs. Del Rio and Henry/Ziggler coming out
6/24: 104,000 (2.92)- Bryan vs. Orton
6/17: 636,000 (3.42)- Punk vs. Del Rio and Lesnar/Ziggler coming out

Two of the lowest gains and lowest rated overruns in this year. :eek:rton:punk:bryan2 - The current three top guys.

Clearly what RAW Overruns need is this man, :henry1
 
#4,891 ·
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Ziggler/Kofi
Barrett/Miz

If I see either of these two matches again I'll fast forward through them quicker than the last time.
Has Barrett/Miz actually happened that much?

Mania pre-show
Night after Mania

... then last week. Can't recall any other one-on-ones between them. :/

But yeah, they both are mediocre in the ring, so most probably would fast-forward through them the first time they watch a match of theirs (though personally, I thought the night after Mania was a very decent match).
 
#4,892 ·
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This is the fourth week in a row that they have done better than expected.

4,179,848 | 3,970,000 -5.00%
4,111,100 | 3,980,000 -3.19%
4,298,000 | 4,172,000 -2.93%
4,190,333 | 4,007,000 -4.38%

The probability of this pattern being just noise is 6%. So it looks like something meaningful has happened which is making more viewers want to tune in...
 
#4,893 ·
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Not bad... and if it keeps up like this maybe it will show Cena isn't as special as he has been treated for years. The show is doing well without him.
 
#4,907 ·
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Nielsen US TV universe estimates for the 2013-14 season which are being used effective August 26, 2013.

Nielsen Estimates 2013-14 - Popluation (Millions) - A 1.0 Rating Equals
Adults 18-49 - 126.96 - 1.2696 Million
Adults 25-54 - 119.75 - 1.1975 Million
Adults 18-34 - 67.63 - 676,300

tvbythenumbers
 
#4,910 · (Edited)
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August 26th, 2013
- 3.07 rating (-0.17 on last week)
- 3.02 million households
- 4.190 million viewers (-108,000)
- an average of 1.39 viewers per household that watches Raw

- 1.50 Adults 18-49 rating (-0.07)
- 1.904 million viewers in Adults 18-49 demographic (-82,000)

- 2.286 million viewers fall outside of Adults 18-49 demographic (-26,000)

:)
 
#4,982 ·
Re: Official Raw Ratings Thread [Post All TV Ratings Discussions Here]

August 26th, 2013
- 3.07 rating (-0.17 on last week)
- 3.02 million households
- 4.190 million viewers (-108,000)
- an average of 1.39 viewers per household that watches Raw

- 1.50 Adults 18-49 rating (-0.07)
- 1.904 million viewers in Adults 18-49 demographic (-82,000)

- 2.20 Males 18-49 rating (-0.01)
- 1.376 million viewers in Males 18-49 demographic (+/-0.00)

- 0.82 Womens 18-49 rating (-0.13)
- 0.528 million viewers in Womens 18-49 demographic (-82,000)


- 2.286 million viewers fall outside of Adults 18-49 demographic (-26,000)
Interesting, so the majority of the 108,000 loss it appears was actually women tuning out, as the main Males 18-49 demographic was flat week on week. Impressive.

Males 18-49 Breakdown - August 26th, 2013
Q1 - 2.16 rating / 1.360 million (+0.05 / +40,000)
--> grew from 1.2 million through to 1.6 million
Q2 - 2.19 rating / 1.378 million (+0.43 / +277,000)
--> 20:17 - 2.70 rating / 1.70 million (peak - +0.35 / +229,000)
Q3 - 1.97 rating / 1.240 million (+0.13 / +89,000)
Q4 - 1.97 rating / 1.240 million (+0.20 / +133,000)
Q5 - 2.39 rating / 1.504 million (+0.20 / +134,000)
--> 21:07 - 2.69 rating / 1.692 million (peak - +0.15 / +106,000)
--> 21:14 - 2.69 rating / 1.690 million
Q6 - 2.16 rating / 1.360 million (-0.09 / -48,000)
--> 21:23 - 2.75 rating / 1.731 million
--> 21:24 - 2.81 rating / 1.770 million (peak - +0.09 / +69,000)
Q7 - 2.13 rating / 1.341 million (-0.30 / -179,000)
Q8 - 2.05 rating / 1.290 million (-0.21 / -124,000)
--> 21:52 - 2.73 rating / 1.717 million (peak - +0.04 / +32,000)
Q9 - 2.04 rating / 1.284 million (-0.52 / -318,000)
Q10 - 2.10 rating / 1.322 million (-0.18 / -104,000)
--> 22:17 - 2.59 rating / 1.632 million (peak - -0.34 / -200,000)
Q11 - 2.07 rating / 1.303 million (-0.08 / -42,000)
Q12 - 2.38 rating / 1.498 million (+0.09 / +64,000)
OR - 2.83 rating / 1.781 million (+0.08 / +61,000)
--> five minute overrun versus eleven minutes last week
--> 23:03 - 2.84 rating / 1.790 million
--> 23:04 - 2.98 rating / 1.877 million (peak - +0.20 / +139,000)
--> 23:05 - 2.84 rating / 1.788 million

I hope no Del Rio or RVD marks visit this thread. Although there was a slight drop for Q6, the peak for that quarter was still up week on week. The big drop came in Q7 week-on-week which was Del Rio vs RVD. That mostly killed the second half of the show, but Orton vs Christian as already discussed added to it. They gained ground back however.

Positives
- Shield vs Daniel Bryan
- entire first half of the show
--> Punk vs Axel
--> AJ Lee's shoot

Negatives
- Del Rio vs RVD
- Orton vs Christian
 
#4,911 · (Edited)
Re: Official CHECK OUT THE RATINGS Thread [Post All TV Ratings Discussions Here]

Detailed A18-49 viewership:
8/26
8:00: 1,815 million viewers
9:00: 1,903 million viewers
10:00-11:06: 1,982 million viewers

8/19
8:00: 1,711 million viewers
9:00: 2,036 million viewers
10:00-11:12: 2,132 million viewers

Live+SD

Edit:
@D.M.N.
USA Network (13/14 season): 1.0 (Cable) HH rating = 986,470 households
 
#4,913 ·
Re: Official CHECK OUT THE RATINGS Thread [Post All TV Ratings Discussions Here]

Detailed A18-49 viewership:
8/26
8:00: 1,815 million viewers
9:00: 1,903 million viewers
10:00-11:06: 1,982 million viewers

8/19
8:00: 1,711 million viewers
9:00: 2,036 million viewers
10:00-11:12: 2,132 million viewers

Live+SD

Edit:
@D.M.N.
USA Network (13/14 season): 1.0 (Cable) HH rating = 986,470 households
Ah, okay, I didn't realise the household ratings were cable only.

Seeing as you appear to have detailed information, any chance for any breakdowns before Torch/Observer report them? ;)
 
#4,912 ·
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before everyone descends into mark wars can everyone please remember there will undoubtedly be a drop off from the show after Summerslam due to last weeks show being super pivotal to the plot and came off a great PPV. that needs to be acknowledged before everyone cries for Cena back and rant about indy talent. The one thing I find this thread lacks is perspective. Ratings don't go down on talent alone, the storylines and what they do with said storylines is the deciding factor. does a storyline sustain interest? does it leave you with questions that you want answering? these things are the most important thing. unfortunately I feel that the storylines could be slightly more compelling and I do wonder if it keeps the interest of casuals. The Punk/Heyman feud is a bit touch and go (Curtis Axel isn't helping)and the Bryan/Corporation runs the risk of becoming repetitive. we won't be able to tell from one week, we'd need to watch the overall trend though.
 
#4,916 ·
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before everyone descends into mark wars can everyone please remember there will undoubtedly be a drop off from the show after Summerslam
Not necessarily because unlike last week, there was no NFL pre-season game on this Monday.

Also a lot of times the quality of one show will show in the next one's rating.
 
#4,914 ·
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This is what happens when Triple H sings "When You Wish Upon A Star" and "Deebo's" the entire roster. :HHH2

Daniel Bryan is such an adorable, bearded, little teddy bear. They should make a teddy bear that has the Yes! chant come out of it if you squeeze it.

Orton is killing me with all of his facial expressions after something devious happens.

Also, even though I don't care for Punk that much, this Heyman/Axel/Punk thing is hilarious. Heyman is killing me, Axel is a cardboard cutout, and Punk looks better when he is being beaten down. I look forward to Heyman slashing the tires on Punk's tour bus, while having Axel throw a brick through the window of it.

Everyone is doing well. I'm glad. Now, only if Sheamus was back...

:angel
 
#4,918 ·
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CHANGES TO HOW TV RATINGS WILL BE DETERMINED AND WHAT THIS MEANS FOR WWE & TNA GOING FORWARD

By Mike Johnson on 2013-08-28 10:20:54

Beginning with the 2013-2014 TV season that will kick off this Fall, the Nielsen company will begin counting households that don't watch TV traditionally (i.e. over the air antennas, cable, etc.) but instead stream their programming.

What this means is that the overall average number of homes that will be accounted for will be greater (an estimate at TVByTheNumbers.com suggests 1.5 million new homes) overall, so ratings are expecting to drop a little across the board, since Nielsen's system measures the percentage of homes watching specific TV programming in comparison to the amount of TVs being viewed at that time.

So, WWE and TNA programming will drop a slight amount in the ratings, even though the homes don't technically receive USA Network, Spike, etc. but have been added to the base of potential homes that could be watching their programming.
 
#4,921 · (Edited)
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Last year, the viewership did actually increased over summerslam post-ppv Raw, however that was due to Triple H's retirement angle that had big interest. This year they don't have that kinda hook to keep viewers tuned in, its just heels(too many of them) beating up on Bryan. They need some strong babyface opposition to increase interest in this angle. Bryan is ridiculously outmatched. However the story is still in its infancy, we have to wait and see how they build it. My guess is, around survivor series ratings will increase as interest goes up when Henry, Big show and possibly Sheamus will be back, along with bryan to feud against corporation/shield. Should be fun tv regardless of ratings.

Above 4m for all shows is still a big success. Losing Cena meant nothing it seems.
 
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