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#1 ·
Since today marks the start of the 2013 calendar, I thought I'd start a thread about it. Who do you think will win this year??


My money is on Fernando Alonso of course. If the f138 is within 2-3tenths of the fastest car Alonso wins...simple :)

Lights not quite out but away we go:...
 
#138 ·
and I'm off my meds for saying, Webber has disobeyed team orders, after 99% of the people on this thread were saying Seb was wrong for doing so.
Why not the same criticism for Webber?

So you want to criticise one person but not the other?
Ignoring the fact that Webber has ignored team orders, obstructed his team mate when he needed to claw his way back through the field, but hey that's RACING.
Oh but the youngest triple world champion in history is wrong, note to Webber, when you disobey team orders, make sure it counts.
Seb is so hurt about some aussie here is seeking comfort with his three WDC's!!!

And again I'm off my meds for saying Alonso has been implicated in some pretty unsavoury things.
His team cheating for him to win and/or get extra points?

Too many sheep on here.

Disprove my accusations if you can.........
 
#139 ·
Well from what I've read nobody has any issue with Vettel choosing to disobey team orders. It's the way he chose to do it. The ambush he put on Webber was akin to kicking a man when he's down, rubbing salt in the wounds, fighting someone with one arm tied behind their back. Plain and simple, it wasn't a fair fight.

But every time Webber chose to ignore team orders, both drivers were going flat out.

There's the difference.

btw, the 'meds' thing isn't as much to do with what you're saying is how you're coming across. It's very 'rant'-like which doesn't serve to help you get your point across. But that's my interpretation of it.
 
#144 ·
ROS surprised us all with a blistering lap in Q3, not sure how he was 2+ tenths quicker than VET and ALO, must be the rear oriented performance of his Merc, or Tires, idk.

Force India did really well, and have great grid position and a quick car, lol @ DIR over his radio message. Race looks really interesting with VET and ALO right on the Merc's tail, and MAS running the hard tires right behind the front row, with 2 quick Force India's on their tail. It's going to be a cracker for sure.

Oh and I still hate Sky for ending BBC's lovely consistent coverage.
 
#146 ·
Delighted for Rosberg, needed an early pole to prove to himself & the team that he is deserving of equal upgrades and position as Hamilton. Will also prevent any media jumping on his back as the season grows old. I think the race victory belongs to Alonso though, got that extra something in the car, their tyre degred seems to be strongest, especially in the Bahrain temperatures. As for Raikkonen & Lotus, think they showed their hand in practice, while other teams were tinkering with mechanical set-up.
 
#147 ·
Delighted for Rosberg too, don't think for a minute he'll win or get on the podium either unfortunately. Disappointed Kimi only finished 9th.

Don't like people still knocking Sky. They've raised awareness of the sport and given us more insight & behind the scenes coverage then we've ever had. Get over it already!
 
#152 ·
Result was inevitable after Alonso's DRS problem. Very unlucky for di Resta. It's frustrating to see victories in the manner Vettel got his, but manner of the circuit and tyres, he just blitzed away from everyone. Also feel sympathy for Rosberg, incredible pole, never gave up but 9th. Same could apply to Button, drove very well but finished in 10th. Strategy ruled in the desert.
 
#154 ·
From what I saw – I was watching while doing other things, so only caught bits here and there – the race itself was fairly exciting, even if the resulting podium wasn't any sort of surprise, ending up with he same three guys standing there as last year. Good news for Grosjean though; getting third might give him a little seat security.

It would have been fun to have di Resta and his Force India in the top three but I was more depressed to see Nico fade after his strong qualy (mainly because I have him as a pick in a fantasy league).

Weird problems for both Ferrari cars.
Macca still sucks. :cussin:
Seb won. Again.

Yeah, another F1 race down and I still care less than any previous year. Strange, that.
 
#156 ·
That was disappointing, I assumed the Ferrari was too quick and kind to its tire. I had this down as a alo-mas-vet/ham finish.

Great race for Di resta, shame his tires fell off so badly during the last 10 or so laps but it was good to see Grosjean getting back up there after the critics of this season.

Perez looked like a good racing driver(a bit crazy too) for the first time since monza apart from his occasional flashes of brilliance.
Williams look very bad this season, especially Maldonado who truth be told should not of been there. Give me the consistent Senna rather than that erratic loon!
Caterham's Pic updates looked impressive too but VDG needs to be dropped.
Also Sauber are really disappointing and letting the hulk down badly :( but Gutierrez will not last the season, the golden boy has proven he can't handle the pressure.
What impressed me most was when the DRS on Alonso's ferrari was broke and wouldn't close how did he keep the car on the track? Surely he should of just spun it
 
#157 ·
Reports have Webber quitting F1 at the end of the season. Not surprising. Almost entirely down to Vettel and the team's apathy in any sort of punishment towards him. Will just make Vettel look more of an arsehole, rest of the team too (especially Helmut Marko). Time for the Iceman to put Vettel in his place?
 
#160 ·
Best get ready for Mercedes to take a detour off a cliff tomorrow. Their speed in that last sector seems unworldly though, should prevent them getting caught in the pit straight DRS. Regardless of circumstance and situation, amusing to see Button get schooled in time by his team-mate, especially one who was written off so quickly in Perez.
 
#162 ·
Oh happy days, extraordinary first lap from ALO, other than that not much excitement to be honest, but F! fans have become spoilt after the epic 2012 season, not every race can be a thriller. Dreadful day for Mercedes.

I admit the tyres are a little but of a problem, but Mercedes has other problems too, so you can't blame everything on the tyres. Too many Hamilton fans jumping on the bandwagon against Pirelli, I personally think the tyres could be better, but they HAVE to fix the delamination issues. Only a matter of time before an horrific accident.
 
#163 ·
This season appears to be fully dependent on tyres which is never a good thing. I'm sure I won't be the only one to say 4 stops is too much in a dry race. And with the issues with failures etc. it's clear Pirelli have been asked to go further than they're capable of and it's hurting the races. I'm worried Monaco will be a farce. Likelihood has either Rosberg or Hamilton up front and 2 trains forming because the Mercs are the worst of the teams (all of them) on tyres.
 
#164 ·
People blaming the tyres should remember that Ferrari pushed from the word go. They weren't looking to go slow and protect the tires. They decided to pit 4 times and race all out. Red bull was caught out by Ferrari.

Can't fucking blame Pirelli for everything. Ferrari and lotus understand the tyres.
 
#168 ·
Agreed. When a guy on the front row of the grid manages to end up well out of the points, there's a problem, regardless of who it is. I'm not an advocate of having everlasting tyres because dealing with wearing tyres is a valid and valuable quality in a driver; knowing when to push 100% and when to conserve. However we're now at a point where the tyres determine the race. Qualifying means absolutely nothing. Not to mention the fact we keep getting random tyre failures like Di Resta's in Practice. It's getting to the point where the tyres may not even be safe!
 
#169 ·
Vettel really is the most hated driver in F1 haha. He's made his bed though. Disrespected his team, his team mate, and then tried to get out of it with the most fake apology I've seen in ages, only to do a 180 and backtrack at the next race. And what he said essentially proved him a complete arsehole. Can't wait for next year. Likelihood is Raikkonen steps into the Lion's Den, and I reckon he can win. The Iceman won't take any shit and is good enough to beat Seb.

On the race, Alonso and Raikkonen AGAIN showing they're a class above everyone atm. Truly elite drivers but when elite drivers are as experienced as those 2, it's ominous. Vettel can win races with the best car, he can overtake and can do very well with a not quite so great car. But right now he doesn't seem to quite have the nous Alonso and Raikkonen have in a situation where you have to really think. You can look at Button's serge (pun intended ;) ) to 8th from 17th at the end of the 1st lap too. The drivers that had given best thought to their race ended up benefiting. That's a positive of degrading tyres. HOWEVER, it was too much. 4 stops!? In a dry race, that's unacceptable. Glad Pirelli are changing because it's needed.
 
#171 ·
This was the first race to make me complain about the Pirellis. I don't have any issue with the podium finishers – in fact, I'm quite pleased with the result – but those tires were ridiculous. I ended up watching more of the Giro live than the Spanish GP, and it's pretty rare for me to more or less give up on a race.
 
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