Acknowledged by SCOTT STEINER
Join Date: Apr 2008
Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
I think a lot more people like the 2004 3-way more than Savage v Steamboat. On this site, anyway. I bet if you ran a poll the numbers would tilt heavily toward the 3-way.
Also IDK what you mean by 'it really needs a context'. That wasn't their first match together and they actually had a running feud where Savage crushed Steamboat's larynx with the ring bell, which comes into play during the Mania match. It's just one big blow-off where mostly everything comes full circle.
I don't like when people use the 'it's outdated' line when talking about Savage/Steamboat. Who likes the match for the flying elbow and the 'moveset' and all that rubbish? It's an exciting feud-ender no matter what moves they used, and hell, people were doing more spectacular-looking moves in the 70s than in that match (maybe not in the WWF, but WHA/EV). It would have been a great match in 2013 (with most likely a bunch of shitfaces chanting "this is awesome") for the same reason it was a great match in 1987. If someone doesn't think it's a great match, then, y'know, whatever, different strokes. But 'this wouldn't look that impressive is it happened recently' is a criticism of the match I've always really hated.
Yea, you don't know what I mean when I mention context. I'm not talking about the feud, I'm talking about how this match was wrestled in the 80s. Savage taking high risks then would not be high risks now. That's why we have to understand that, at the time, this WAS the greatest match of all-time, and they did things that were never seen before.
It's pretty much the same thing as saying Bob Cousy or Johnny Unitas wouldn't be as good if they played in their respective leagues today as they do know. Or that Babe Ruth, if baseball allowed black players, probably wouldn't have had as much homeruns. CONTEXT. But they're still great players, and it's still a great much.
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