Re: "MONTA ELLIS HAVE IT ALL!"
^^^see, this is why I can't take you seriously. Kobe was a better defender than Lebron is now, easily, and that isn't even a question. He could guard the opposing best player THROUGHOUT the game while Lebron usually only does that in the fourth to conserve his energy. I can give you some of the other things but if you actually think Lebron was the better defender because he's the best now than you're ignorant as Kobe was the best defender that wasn't a big for a long ass time and was actually elite, he earned the first team defensive selections. Yes I know recently he's just been given them, since 2010/2011, but for the majority of his career he dominated the defensive end.
The stats argument is retarded, Lebron has padded his stats throughout his career and that's pretty much a fact in my eyes. Aside from that, let's think about Kobe's stats for a second as he's ranked among the best throughout the past decade+ in assists, rebounds, and steals for his career. Are those that stats you're referring to mark? The ones that Lebron averages 7/8 in regularly? That's cool, except Lebron runs an ALL ABOUT ME offense wherever he goes while Kobe has been in a system for most of his career. Kobe is JUST as good of a passer as Lebron, if you don't believe me then you don't watch him when he actually tries to be a playmaker. He's not the same level rebounder, but Lebron has a couple of inches and a lot of weight on him, but for his positio.and will last a lot longer than Lebron's, no was never able to guard all 5 positions but that has to due with Lebron's physical attributes once again rather than some talent gap. They're both incredible scorers.
The biggest difference between the two is Lebron has a huge advantage in height, weight, and just pure athleticism. Kobe can't compare in that regard as it's not something you can work on, but as far as talent and utilizing said talent throughout their careers Kobe has a noticeable edge on him as he had to work without that athleticism. Not to mention Kobe was one of the best rebounding guard with a bunch of AMAZING rebounders on his team. He's had Shaq, Malone, lolKwame, Pau, Odom, Bynu, and now Dwight on his team grabbing the majority of his rebounds while the only good rebounder Lebron has ever really had on his team was Vaj and Boozer for that short period of time.