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Re: ROH "Defy Or Deny 2012" - Millqaukee, WI, 01/19/2013

Originally Posted by ninetwentyfour View Post
I'm not even necessarily blaming Pearce, I just think he really got ROH in a rut from 2009-2011, which was obviously going to be felt for a good period of time (Ok, maybe I am blaming him), especially when you didn't have the quick fix answer like NOAH talent or the big free agent. Did Pearce establish/introduce ONE guy in his time? And then everyone left near the end of the Pearce era and into Delirious's first run. Delirious never got his footing under him, and if anything he was responsible for bringing in Elgin, forming Future Shock, putting the belt on Edwards, and all the momentum ANX had. I would love to know if the original idea was to do the switch to DR at BITW or to keep the belt on Edwards. Then, the Sinclair purchase happened. At which point the idea was to introduce and establish the guys they had to a new audience. Hopefully I don't come off too defensive, because this all goes without saying they've fucked up numerous opportunities with talent under the Sinclair banner, but I do think there's an argument to be made that repercussions are still being felt from the Pearce period.
I don't think anyone will really argue this. Pearce looks better now because a) he had better talent to work with and b) the product has gotten so much worse since he left, but it's not like ROH was setting the world on fire in 09-10. Maybe things could have been okay if Sinclair had never bought the company (I still remember how good ROH was, out of nowhere, in the first few months of 2011), but they did, and then it all went downhill. A good booker could have saved it, but that didn't happen, and we can't just blame Pearce for all of it.

Still, I definitely think the trend of dragging out angles long past where they should have ended started with Pearce (this is a reminder that Tyler Black won the title nearly two years after Take No Prisoners), and along with that came the hesitance to actually try and move people up the card, or put heels over (the two of these go hand in hand), and all these things have contributed to where we are now.

Oh well. There are so many shows from 03-07 that I can watch.

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