I hope for while Punk/Lesnar/Shield/Heyman are on the same page running riot snd Heyman did keep mentioning "we" in the footage VKM showed that plus the smirk from Punk at RR I tend to think Punk knew all along, now it's just about fitting in Lesnar somewhere
Anything involving Dean Ambrose will always be epic to Ney Ney. Meaning that scene was only epic because Ambrose was in it. Not much of a reason just to claim something is epic because a no name Indy talent is on our television screens.
It was epic. Heyman showing his amazing mic skills, shield being silent badasses and Maddox as well being amazing as usual as the kid in over his head trying to make a name for himself. Great work by WWE so far with the shield
Heyman showing amazing mic skills. What are you smoking. Wrong scene kid. Heyman didn't express any sort of legendary mic skills during that segment. Great work by the WWE so far with the Shield. Are you serious? They don't work for anyone, but now they do. That's horrible writing. What was the point of them costing CM Punk his title? Don't give me the lights went out bullshit either. The lights came back on to reveal Ambrose, and the others. It was no big secret, and it was actually insulting as a fan to think the WWE would try to pull this one out of their asses. For weeks people knew that somehow Heyman would be involved with The Shield. The Shield is a directionless stable from NXT.
Which brings me to my next point. They were acknowledged as being from NXT already. Meaning they are under contract to the WWE so in essence they do work for somebody. It's fans like you that are the problem. You actually are entertained by such simple writing that doesn't add up in the end. Fans like you are clueless as to how a story is actually suppose to go. There are so many holes in this angle it's insulting to my intelligence. What's the point of the Shield? When someone answers that intelligently I will consider being less harsh on this whole shit angle, and stable that the WWE has created for you to watch each, and every Monday.
Brad Maddox? He ruined Ryback's chances at defeating CM Punk in possibly the most awful way to end a popular star's streak. I'm not a fan of Ryback, but the booking in that match was awful. I can't believe CM Punk was fine with that ending in the least bit. Then Maddox has a match with Ryback in which Ryback just owns him. That's it. He still hasn't won a contract, and somehow he shows up on Raw every week. How does that work? Why isn't he arrested, and escorted out of the building? Better yet why didn't Vince kayfabe give him a contract last night for supplying the footage to him?
No, not only. I liked it because Heymans acting was a masterpiece and the whole atmosphere catched me. Of course, Ambrose was a part of it.
Btw. wtf is wrong with you, once you liked him. :lol
No, not only. I liked it because Heymans acting was a masterpiece and the whole atmosphere catched me. Of course, Ambrose was a part of it.
Btw. wtf is wrong with you, once you liked him. :lol
Ambrose is awesome, but The Shield sucks. What is so hard for anyone to realize this? In fact I think all three of the members have huge potential, but this angle is destroying that. The run ins are old, and lead to nothing.
I don't see how you think Heyman wasn't showing great mic skills. But hey, it's your opinion. I don't see how it's horrible writing. Yeah, lets have The Shield come out straight away and say "Oh yeah, we're working for Heyman which is why we helped Punk retain his title etc." I mean why not, lets just not have that build up and get straight into it. Jeez, you're writing is even worse than the WWE's, some feet that.
:lol of course they work for the WWE, who said they didn't? You're making shit up on the spot now aren't you. In terms of "working for somebody" the question was whether they had a leader not that they weren't working for a company ffs. The point of The Sheild? They were working for Heyman and doing what he told them, wasn't that obvious to you?
I'm glad they ruined his streak, that thing would have kept him down. He was already a Goldberg rip off, getting rid of his streak was a good thing for the company. The fact he was put in the position to even be carried by Punk in a match was pathetic in itself and it shouldn't have even come to that.
I believe it was the Shield who said that they work for nobody. Cole said various times that The Shield aren't under contract. Why were they working for Heyman? Just to help Punk, who then acted like he didn't know? That's awful writing. You can tell they had no plan, and thus kept that open by saying that this stable didn't have a leader, only to swerve you all in to the notion now that they did. That's all this was. Why didn't the Shield come out last night to help Paul? Nothing about the Shield was obvious to me other than the fact that they are boring, and stale. So is Paul Heyman fired? Or will he just come out next week to a job that he doesn't have? Better yet Vince will keep him around because he is angry with Heyman, and so now Vince wants his ass. Then Heyman will be fired. Perhaps maybe Vince will make Paul kiss his ass? Maybe they'll have a retirement match at WM 29 this year.
As Amber said, The Shield have always said that they are not working for Punk. (Because they are working for Paul Heyman). Punk just got too confident and assumed that they would always be there to help him keep his title. It wasn't until Punk denounced/berated them publicly on Friday that they decided to fuck him over. Ambrose's face said it all. So I don't see how it's poor booking. If anything Punk should be mad at Heyman/The Shield for costing him the belt. But he'll probably brush it under the carpet.
So I don't see how it's poor booking. If anything Punk should be mad at Heyman/The Shield for costing him the belt. But he'll probably brush it under the carpet.
Admitting he will just brush it under the carpet is no different than saying it's poor booking. There, you admitted it yourself this angle is horribly booked. Saying Punk will brush it under the carpet is only proving my point of this all in the first place. It's poor booking.
Good writing was when the video aired of Dean Ambrose, and Foley having words. They should have given Dean a shot with Foley. Instead Foley comes out to give a pep talk to CM Punk. Which did nothing for either man. Punk remained champ, and Foley went away after a Survivor Series PPV. Reigns is family of The Rock, you mean to tell me they couldn't find a way to debut him on that alone? Seth Rollins is gifted in the ring, and could have easily made a name for himself by now without the Shield. All three of these men are talented, but I feel as though this stable was done horribly, and with the wrong folks.
is this guy high? The Shield are the most well booked part of the show...they look strong, intimidating, legitimate and has set Ambrose up for life in terms of his future career...
The man that was revealed as their leader, Paul Heyman. His job was in jeopardy last night. The footage proved that Heyman was guilty, and out comes Lesnar? Granted, I like Brock as much as the next guy. What sense did this make though? You would think The Shield who listen to no one, and have no rules would have just come out regardless of what Heyman says. After all firing Heyman would be an injustice right? If it weren't for Heyman would The Shield have been involved in such big time events like the Survivor Series, Punk's HIAC match with Ryback? Paul in essence gave them their shot. Why would they allow for him to be fired live on Raw? Instead Lesnar comes out because we already had our Shield run in for the night.:
I realize this, and already addressed you. There were other questions you still haven't answered. You said they didn't come down because Paul didn't pay them to. lmao. That's your argument to why they didn't come down last night. I pity you.
Maddox was blowing the cover of the operation by stalking Heyman, thats why he kept telling his GTFO of his life. i'm sorry if you have a five second memory but a lot of questions were answered last night with some more now taking its place.
Brad Maddox never won a contract. Why is he still around, and especially backstage following Heyman around? At what point up until some weird backstage segment did we even have a clue as to Maddox blowing anyone's cover? This just proves that this wasn't the plan from the beginning, and they are just going week by week like they do with much of their other angles. They had to tie up all these loose ends from the last two months. I see you won't answer any of the other questions either. You keep holding on to this one subject matter which I have now blown out of the water.
:heyman you are serious, right? in terms of the Shield and Heyman he was blowing their cover by being an attention seeking dirtbag and from a face perspective he screwed over Ryback...
It's called tying up loose ends. That's why the segment was introduced last night. Typically in story writing there is foreshadowing. You tell me where there was foreshadowing that lead up to last night's segment between the five men, and maybe I'll give a bit of credit for continuing this debate.
Eddie Ray is right "shit don't need to make sense" especially with a fan base like you all around to defend it. I prefer well thought out angles. Not short term for the week bullshit.
lmao. Don't get so angry just because I am proving you wrong. Stop with the name calling it's childish. I don't take it so seriously at all. I just don't understand how everyone is so into the Shield angle, it sucks. There are plenty of holes in this angle, and you still can't prove me wrong on that matter. I didn't say every scene needs foreshadowing. However, I am still waiting for you to provide examples of.
@Mclovin it- Can you please explain to me why Maddox who was from NXT/FCW had to fight for a contract, but the Shield didn't? Can you also explain to me why Maddox is still around since he never won a contract? Heyman gave him a job? Since when does Heyman employ people for the WWE. Even Lesnar had the issue with his contract with Lauranitis, and HHH. Heyman had nothing to do with that. What makes Maddox any different? This guy just follows Paul around, and he is also a referee. Isn't there some sort of issue with a ref who works for the WWE, but also works for Paul Heyman?
@Mclovin it- Can you please explain to me why Maddox who was from NXT had to fight for a contract, but the Shield didn't? Can you also explain to me why Maddox is still around since he never won a contract? Heyman gave him a job? Since when does Heyman employ people for the WWE. Even Lesnar had the issue with his contract with Lauranitis, and HHH. Heyman had nothing to do with that. What makes Maddox any different? This guy just follows Paul around, and he is also a referee. Isn't there some sort of issue with a ref who works for the WWE, but also works for Paul Heyman?
They are at least protecting them and not yet getting treated like Aces and Eights geeks who fall over at the slightest note of babyface retaliation. The problem is that you know that's not going to last forever, as long as it's not Ryback being the babyface getting that shine, at least some benefit can be had for that moment.
Once again I feel like one of the bigger stars of this era is being held back by this stable. Dean Ambrose stands out on his own, and his mannerisms alone are enough to prove he is light years ahead of the other two men he is with. I really thought that the WWE was going to push this Foley vs Ambrose thing. If not a match then just pure classic mic segments with the two each week live on Raw. Ambrose is strong enough on the mic, and creative enough to actually keep interest. In fact his mic work with The Shield stood out more than anything else they have done. Ambrose is a sure thing, and I feel by now he could have been a bigger deal than we would have expected.
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