Re: NFL Thread: Week 13 - STEELERS FANS ASSEMBLE
I don't really fully grasp what you're asking but to determine if you're a good team right now you have to look at what they've done for you lately. What they did 3, 4, 13, 27, etc years ago has no impact on whether they are good NOW.
However, if you want to consider success of a franchise you can look at how often they make the playoffs, how many championships they've won. Division titles. Etc.
Maple Leafs - Raptors - Steelers - Blue Jays