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post #681 of (permalink) Old 10-16-2012, 09:41 PM
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Re: MMA Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by Walls View Post
Apparently you do when your name is Chael P. Sonnen. An entire season of Chael is going to be amazing, he's going to own Jones on the show, shit talking wise. Shame he's going to get destroyed.
Who else is there at 205 that Jones hasn't beat already? Gustafsson? Davis? Both are getting a slow rise. There is no one else.

Originally Posted by McQueen View Post
I dunno an argument could be made in Lesnar's case when he got a title shot against Randy Couture at UFC 92. Beating some random dude & Heath Herring (and he probably would have beat Mir if not for Mazzagatti) really worth giving the guy a title shot, or was it because of his hype and popularity.
Originally Posted by Walls View Post
Lesnar got the shot that early due to his name and a lack of depth in the division at the time. That was an interesting fight.
^ lack of depth is the main reason. He smacked Mir in his UFC debut until a ridiculous break then he got subbed. He had a few fights and there was an interim title b/c of Randy being out of the UFC. So really from memory there was like 5 guys fighting over 2 belts. Big Nog, Sylvia, Mir, Couture and Lesnar. Thats a huge chunk of the division. Werdum, Kongo, Gonzaga, Herring were others, Arlovski was on his way out, CAIN and JDS were just beginning in the UFC as well so yes his name helped vault him into contention over fighters with a bigger fighting background but he also had a lot of hype surrounding his entrance into the UFC and he had a dominant debut and follow up performance. If they had kept him away and fighting someone else you run the risk of him losing to a mid card guy and then all that hype goes away.
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