I have been frantically searching for Mankind's face turn in a raw segment which I remember vaguely having seen when he came out to his eerie music, took the mic, poured his heart out sitting in a corner pulling out his hair in process effectively turning face.
How many face/heel turns have been done by wrestlers through a mic segment and not through storylines or gimmick changes that you have come across and what is the most effective/oft used manners for a face/heel turn in your opinion?
P.S: If any of you come across the mankind raw segment am talking about, please share it.
Not exactly sure what you are wanting, but the big Lawler face turn was done through a Jimmy Hart interview after Lawler broke his leg and Hart said "what do you do with a horse with a broken leg, you shoot him." Then he brought out Paul Ellering as the new King of Wrestling.
Here is one of my favorites....Tommy Rich's mom comes out and effectivly turns Tommy Rich face and turns Jimmy Vailent, and Tojo Yammamoto heel. A rare triple turn. It also features a very young Bobby Eaton and Jimmy Hart.
The Jerry Lawler thing was the kind of stuff I am looking for where a heel/face turn happened in a mic segment and not in a match when the wrestler suddenly stops cheating or gets beaten up by his heel buddies.
BTW, the Forgotten Legends series is seriously missing your inputs.
I thought Mankind was a gradual face turn? May 1997 was his last PPV as a heel (defeating Rocky Miavia funnily enough) and June he wasn't around much, save for the JR interviews (the main catalyst for his face turn in my eyes). July he officially turned face by facing Lawler and Triple H at KOTR (getting major cheers), feuding with Triple H for a couple of months and campaigning to team up with Steve Austin in the tag team tournament.
I mean, he was getting a mixed reaction all the way up to WM 13 but the night after was when he officially turned heel in one of the best promos of his career, if not the best.
Agreed, always liked Bret's heel turn RAW 97 days. I'VE BEEN SCREWED BY SHAWN MICHAELS THE BOYTOY, I'VE BEEN SCREWED BY STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN, I'VE BEEN SCREWED BY THE WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION. Bret-Vince segment was classic the way Bret said BULLSHIT at the end b4 WM13.
Stranger, Chapo did you guys watch the link I posted? That's the kind of wrestling I grew up on. You never knew what was going to happen every week. Makes me laugh about the ECW chants everytime I hear them. I just think the northeast was so used to the WWF style of tv sqaush matches that ECW's wild southern style was revolutionary.
Anyways....Stranger your Forgotten Legends articles have been so storng lately I have not felt the need to chime in. But I will try to do better.
As far as another interview turn....How about the Slaughter face turn in 1984? IMO one of if not the greatest turn ever. He basically was still a heel when he and Sheik had a moment where neither would move aside while Sheik was leaving a squash and Slaughter was arriving for his.
Then Slaughter went to the ring in spite of some cheers and wrestled like a heel, going so far to hold the Cobra Clutch long after the submission. Then the next week Slaughter comes to the ring and starts badmouthing the Shiek and leads the Pledge of Allegiance.
The whole thing is on you tube and very interesting. Slaughter was as hot as Hogan in 84. It is a real shame Vince broke some promises and Slaughter left for Pro Wrestling USA.
Razor Ramon's face turn in 1993 was during an in ring segment. I believe DiBiase was trying to pay him off, which Razor wasn't about to accept. Went off on the mic and got cheered.
Didn't Punk kinda turn face on the mic, when he cut the famous promo, or if he didn't turn face in that promo, how about when he challenged McMahon in the contract signing.
You can't really do a full turn on the mic for the most part. Wrestlers that "mic-turn" have usually already started to get over as a heel/face so the mic work is just a formality.
Mr. Perfect effectively turned face during a segment on Prime Time in late 1992. I believe Savage and Warrior were set to face Ric Flair and Razor Ramon. Warrior was fired from the company so they had to find Savage a partner.
Anyways, the segment is quite long and takes place between matches. Mr Perfect and Bobby Heenan are taking part in a panel discussion with Vince McMahon and others and Savage joins in via satellite. Slowly but surely, Savage points out the reasons why Heenan takes advantage of Perfect and doesn't look out for his best interests.
It's all done so well, and as the segment goes on you can see Perfect start to hear what Savage is saying and begin to turn against Heenan. Obviously, the whole thing ends with Perfect aligning with Savage and thus turning full babyface. Fantastic stuff.
Mr. Perfect effectively turned face during a segment on Prime Time in late 1992. I believe Savage and Warrior were set to face Ric Flair and Razor Ramon. Warrior was fired from the company so they had to find Savage a partner.
Anyways, the segment is quite long and takes place between matches. Mr Perfect and Bobby Heenan are taking part in a panel discussion with Vince McMahon and others and Savage joins in via satellite. Slowly but surely, Savage points out the reasons why Heenan takes advantage of Perfect and doesn't look out for his best interests.
It's all done so well, and as the segment goes on you can see Perfect start to hear what Savage is saying and begin to turn against Heenan. Obviously, the whole thing ends with Perfect aligning with Savage and thus turning full babyface. Fantastic stuff.
True, Was fantastic. Great call, this kind of promo turns is the one I was looking for along with the other replies where "the mother" segment was also great.
Alright i don't if my answer belong's here (not wwe), but you have to check the cm punk's heel turn at roh just after he won the world title from austin aries. brilliant mic stuff.
Yeah, I like when he told Christopher Daniels something along the lines of "You've waited 16 months for a title shot, you'll have to wait another 16 months, kiss my ass" and left through the crowd.
That's an event were Punk trolled everybody.
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