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Re: Bill Goldberg: Star or just hype?

Originally Posted by B-balltm View Post
Goldberg's look, charisma and ring-performance ability is what made the streak possible, and why it was a huge success. WCW didn't originally plan on booking him that way. They just saw how increasingly over he was getting with the fans each week, and chose to ride the wave out. That's why I say "Goldberg made the streak".

According to you, Goldberg "lost his appeal" after the streak was over. How could he have lost his appeal if he was still arguably the most over star 5 years later? The fact that he went over WWE's #1 star in his debut match and was placed in the World Title picture a month later says it all.

You claim his WWE career was a "bust". In what world? He defeated The Rock, Triple H, Brock Lesnar and held the World Title for several months.
The whole "mystique" about Goldberg was him coming out & fucking shit up. After the streak ended, that was over. He was more tame and at that point, was just average. You bring up the fact that he was the most over star 5 years later? What does that mean? It doesn't hide the fact he was a shit wrestler and relied on the legend of the streak to get & remain over.

And seriously, he didn't make the streak. He was in the right place at the right time. WCW couldn't ignore the fans, who in reality, made Goldberg who he was. He was over because he did something rare and thats destroy everybody.

Goldberg came into the WWE over as fuck and 1 year later, nobody gave a shit about him. And the only reason he was over and succeeded was he had an NWO-like faction to feud with, Evolution. It's no interest seeing Goldberg feud with 1 man and struggle, when he's taken out stables in the past. Title wins mean nothing, for us fans. Fact is WCW booked him like a monster, WWE booked him like a typical former WCW guy. Thats like saying Ric Flair's WWE run in 91-93 was amazing, simply because he was a 2 time champion. It's not impossible to be champion but booked to look weak in the process or not fully utilized. Goldberg wasn't used to his full potential because he met it already, 4 years prior and in comparison, his WWE run was a bust because at that point, he was just another guy and treated as such.

Doesn't matter who he beat, the only big time matches available were HHH, Rock and Lesnar. Everything else was filler, just like the streak because when a man is brought up the ranks, based on 1 attribute, the payoff leaves a lot to be desired. You know he has to lose and then what, feud with the same guy forever? Drop down the card?

And quit taking things out of context, I can only speak for myself and for me, the appeal was lost when the streak ended. Oddly enough, many in this thread agree with me. Goldberg was hyped to the moon, like every big time guy. Unlike others, Goldberg had to rely on that hype because he lacked simply wrestling skills to take him further than he went. Only difference between him and Ahmed Johnson was charisma, otherwise, both were horrible, injury prone performers, had a lack of mic skills, lack of passion and didn't bother to improve at all. Hell, Luger was more complete than Goldberg.

Not saying he wasn't a star but no way anybody who knows anything about wrestling will list Goldberg as a top 5 WCW "wrestler" or will say he's a better wrestler than Cena. Goldberg wasn't that damn good at all.

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