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Re: Bill Goldberg: Star or just hype?

Originally Posted by El Chapo View Post
@KO_Bossy, thats what makes me have doubts about Goldberg, it was a simple character that could have worked for anybody who had the slightest bit of charisma and an athletic background. It's easy to make a guy look so superior when mostly booking him in squash matches. But eventually, that ran it's course and when it came time to actually work a match, Goldberg was exposed. Completely different from Hogan, Flair, Sting, Rock, Austin, Lesnar, those guys could actually work and didn't have to rely on a streak angle to get and remain top stars. Without that streak, Goldberg blended in, simply because he lacked other things that are somewhat required to remain a top guy.

The push of Goldberg was a gift and a curse, as it maintained interest in WCW after the NWO fad began to sizzle but a curse in the sense that it hid Goldberg's flaws for so long that when the streak was over, it was a what's next moment. The evidence is there, without the streak, Goldberg was just another guy, largely due to his weaknesses that only a streak of squash matches could cover up. He didn't have enough charisma to completely ignore the fact that he was an injury prone performer, who was in the right place at the right time. Brock was booked perfectly as a monster who could destroy anybody but when given a legit challenge, could perform at a high level.

It also doesn't help matters that the final moments of the streak and afterwards, WCW was a revolving door of bookers, who made a bigger mess of the company. But at the same time, thats what happens when you book a guy so strong and are completely oblivious to the fact that he was a horrible worker and eventually, it would come to light and did. IMO, that takes a few points away from Goldberg. Arguably a star but definately not top 5 WCW, possibly not even top 10, as so many others possessed more strengths than Goldberg, who was basically just over as fuck. If overness means anything, 95% of the Attitude Era would go down as GOATS.
I get the points your making, and there's a lot of validity to them.

However, I don't think that the streak would have worked for just anyone. If you watch TNA, look at Crimson. That guy was booked like a beast and had the winning streak going for like...over a year. His first loss was at Slammiversary in June. And yet he's a horrendous worker (like, worse than Goldberg), no one cared about him, his matches sucked and once the streak was done, he promptly fell off the face of the earth back into the developmental territories. This guy had a solid look about him, but he was missing the IT factor.

Compared to:

Goldberg just LOOKS intimidating. The tattoo on his shoulder, the bald head, badass beard, body hair, he looks like some sort of pseudo ass kicking lumberjack. Real manly man. He had presence and natural charisma, which was great because it largely forfeited the need for him to speak.

Now its true, Goldberg was not very good in the ring. Then again, Hogan never was either, but he made up for that in other areas. Goldberg was able to as well. I'm not gonna get into a pissing contest by comparing them and having people get offended, but the fact of the matter is that both guys were extremely popular and built successful careers for themselves in wrestling based on attributes that didn't include solid in ring work. There are some parallels you can draw between the two.

It just happened that once Goldberg's streak ended that his flaws became more noticeable, which Hogan never really had to endure. Its not like Hulkamania died and people said "oh wow, in all actuality this Hogan guy really blows as a worker." He had Hulkamania, then the nWo, and kept flip flopping between the two all through his career between the Fed and WCW, so his shortcomings were a lot more protected, I find.

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