To the Saints' credit, they were down 17-0, and were actually in the game until the end despite the plethora of mistakes on offense. It's incredible to me that, despite being down 17-0, we storm back in the 2nd quarter and literally impose our will on Atlanta both offensively and defensively. All of a sudden, it's 17-7 and we have a chance to score a touchdown before the half and we huddle with <30 seconds on the clock, throw a pass short of the goal line, and stand around looking at each other before trying to rush up to the line for a spike? Then we open the second half, drive down the field and Lance Moore drops a fucking touchdown right in his hands. Sproles dropped a deep ball in the breadbasket where he had a safety beat on a wheel route. The five interceptions. I could go on, but this was just a complete and utter failure of preparation both mental and physical. Really, really disappointing.
Whoever the Ravens trainers are deserve raises. Both Suggs and Lewis suffer typically season ending injuries and Suggs is back and Lewis will probably be back this season.
Michael Vick's concussion symptoms are reportedly getting worse and he is not recovering. Judging by that news and the Eagle's season, I wouldn't be surprised if Vick and McCoy are deactivated for the last 5 games.
So the saints ruined Atlanta's perfect season while the Falcons ended Brees' streak and crushed any playoff hopes that the Saints had. This is what makes good rivalries and it should be even better next season when Saints will likely have a bounce back year.
Still annoyed by this RGIII/Luck thing. People continue to act as if RGIII is the better QB/prospect when there is a reason that Luck got picked before him.
RGIII has a better group of receivers, a FAR better runningback, a FAR better defense(Colts' d is beyond awful), and a far more experienced head coach. His team is 5-6.
Luck is taking a team that went 2-14 last year potentially to the playoffs. That's GREATNESS. Fuck all these ......s that are all over RGIII's dick, I'd take Luck every single day of the week.
Still annoyed by this RGIII/Luck thing. People continue to act as if RGIII is the better QB/prospect when there is a reason that Luck got picked before him.
RGIII has a better group of receivers, a FAR better runningback, a FAR better defense(Colts' d is beyond awful), and a far more experienced head coach. His team is 5-6.
Luck is taking a team that went 2-14 last year potentially to the playoffs. That's GREATNESS. Fuck all these ......s that are all over RGIII's dick, I'd take Luck every single day of the week.
Completely agree Luck should be up there with Eli and Peyton for MVP for what he has done with the Colts but i disagree with the two bolded points, TY Hilton is showing that he's pretty awesome and Reggie Wayne is Reggie Wayne, Donnie Avery isn't bad whereas the Skins receivers have been having a shit tonne of drops and arguably their best Reciever Garcon has been out for a lot of weeks and the Redskins secondary has been atrocious like letting Victor Cruz walk in for a game winning TD, I do agree that he deserves more praise than RGIII atm though.
Hilton shows a lot of promise, but he still isn't quite a good receiver. I also can't tell how much of it is caused by Luck's play and how much of it is his own ability, but time will be the key to finding that out. Also Wayne is AWESOME, can't be understated, but overall he's the only main threat any team has to worry about on his this offense aside from Luck.
Oh and I forgot to mention we have one of the offensive lines in the league. Shit went downhill quite fast after like 2010 and it's only gotten worse since then.
And you guys let Cruz walk into the endzone, the Colts let the Jags score a game winning TD, with Gabbert throwing, in the final minute of the game which gave the Jags their only win of the season. One of the worst plays of the season for us and one that might cost us the playoffs which would be extremely unfortunate as that was another game in which Luck led a comeback.
I'm also surprised you agreed with me, lulz. I think they're both worth all the praise they're getting, as I don't think it's overblown at all for RGIII, I just don't feel like Luck is getting his fair share of attention.
Skins defense isn't good though. They're in the bottom portion of the league in scoring and yards allowed. Skins don't have a number 1 WR. Maybe Garcon can be one, but he's been out almost the entire year.
Both are gonna be awesome quarterbacks, but RGIII is better this season so far.
Dude Morris is good because Griffin is good. Put Morris on the Jags. You think he'd still be a top 10 RB? Because Griffin threatens the entire field, you just have to concede some stuff to Morris. I'm not saying he sucks, and he is better than anything Indy has, but he's nothing special.
Dude Morris is good because Griffin is good. Put Morris on the Jags. You think he'd still be a top 10 RB? Because Griffin threatens the entire field, you just have to concede some stuff to Morris. I'm not saying he sucks, and he is better than anything Indy has, but he's nothing special.
I never said he's top 10 or even good. I said he's reliable, which he is, which is what other QBs don't have. And I really don't think Griffin makes THAT huge of a difference. Super elite passers have had shit runningbacks for years with teams playing the pass the whole way and yet their runningbacks haven't played very well(Manning, Brady, Rodgers, etc), so I don't see why that changes with Griffin just because he can run.
Indy lost to the Jags and Jets. They got blown out by the Jets. They're barely beating the middle of the pack and bad teams in their schedule. That's cool that they're beating the Browns, the Titans, and the Dolphins, but those aren't good teams.
Indy's best win is against the Packers. Well done. Let's see how they do agains the Texans. They have yet to play them.
And as for wins, that's a team stat. The QB doesn't get full credit for those no matter what ESPN says. Let's compare their records at the end of the year just the same. Let's compare their seasons then too.
I never said he's top 10 or even good. I said he's reliable, which he is, which is what other QBs don't have. And I really don't think Griffin makes THAT huge of a difference. Super elite passers have had shit runningbacks for years with teams playing the pass the whole way and yet their runningbacks haven't played very well(Manning, Brady, Rodgers, etc), so I don't see why that changes with Griffin just because he can run.
The difference is Shanahan. He likes to run the ball to keep defenses off balance. Morris is the beneficiary of Shanahan's offensive game planning and Griffin's ability to strike from anywhere on the field. Kudos to him for seizing the opportunity and running with it. Most RBs are shuffled week to week lol under Shanahan the last few seasons.
Did you see the Jags game? I'll assume no. Luck led a fourth quarter comeback while also only leaving only a minute left on the game clock. The defense then allowed Gabbert to make one long throw with absolutely horrid coverage and allowed a TD. That wasn't his fault.
It wasn't his fault that the defense made Mark Sanches look good.
These wins, the ones that I've seen and even the ones I haven't, have been because of Luck and his ability to run our offense. These aren't team wins, our defense has not gotten it done, especially when it's had to.
The Skins have also only beaten bad teams, but have also lost against these bad teams. Griffin has kept them close in nearly all their games with his great play, but don't act like the Skins aren't a superior team. You can determine that simply by how they did last year, and last year the Colts were by far a worse team.
And I know the season isn't over yet, but at this point in the season Luck's team has a better record than Griffin's team. Griffin has been better statistically, but Luck has lead his team to more wins. Which would you rather have? Romo always had good stats too(I am absolutely not saying he will turn out like Romo or is anything like Romo) but he is hardly a winner and not really a QB that most teams would want to have.
Same thing happened to the Redskins vs the Giants. Griffin made the plays to take the lead late...and then that lol secondary gave up an untouched/undefended deep ball to Cruz. Both defenses are bad, but the Colts have faced weaker offenses. Jets, Browns, Jags, Dolphins, Titans. Not scary at all. There are 5 wins right there where the awful Indy D didn't really matter since those offenses shoot themselves in the foot more often than not.
I don't see a weak offense on the Skins schedule save the awfulness of the Eagles. Rams, Panthers, and Cowboys aren't world beaters but they're better than those 5 I mentioned the Colts played.
I'm a huge Luck fan. He has done really well this season, but Griffin III really has been better. Could that change in last month of the season? Yep.
Umm, did our awful d not matter when it did? Our defense couldn't stop Sanchez nor could it stop Gabbert. That is very telling in terms of which team has a worse defense.
And honestly I don't care what teams the Colts beat as long as they beat them. A playoff spot is a playoff spot regardless of the situation and circumstances that got you there and you should know that more than anyone.
Btw Dallas has the same record as the Dolphins(and at the time of the Dolphins defeat they were on a win streak I believe and fighting for a playoff spot) and Panthers/Rams are as bad as the Jets/Browns/Titans. The only team that was actually way worse than them all is the Jags.
They could stop WEEDEN, TANNEHILL, and HASSLOLEBECK though. They have to be doing some stuff right some of the time. Really it's more like those offenses just suck and implode all too often. Rams are about the same, you're right, but the Panthers are better than those 5.
Look at points scored. Wash is in the top 10. Indy is out of the top 20 (21st:side. This could be that the Colts have faced better defenses, but looking at the schedule I don't see anyone major here save Chicago.
And you do need to care who the Colts have beaten. If they had played a schedule with better offenses, they probably don't win the games they have won. Who they've played is only relevant when looking at Luck and Griffin individually. Of course, who you beat to get into the playoffs doesn't matter. That's a team thing though.
Also, look at total defense. Wash (28) is lower than Indy (19). Again though, Wash has faced superior offenses overall.
Texans & Redskins schemes are known for making RB's look better than what they really are..
I thought Dalton should have won ROY due to him getting his team into the playoffs and I don't think he even got a vote..Luck may fall victim to same thing
Texans & Redskins schemes are known for making RB's look better than what they really are..
I thought Dalton should have won ROY due to him getting his team into the playoffs and I don't think he even got a vote..Luck may fall victim to same thing
If the Colts make the playoffs and the Redskins don't, Luck will win ROTY but the NFC is so weak that the Redskins have a good chance of making the playoffs which would give Griffin the award if the Redskins get in the playoffs.
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