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Re: Nationalism and Patriotism are fucking retarded.

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Originally Posted by Gandhi View Post
Patriotism is loyalty to one's country for what it has done. Nationalism is loyalty to one's country no matter what is has done. a Patriot defends his country loyally even if it's wrong, while a nationalist defends its coutry because he feels the need to prove he is right. Patriotism is relaxes, and Nationalism is rigid.

Tbh,Both sound fucking stupid to me.
You do realise you can be patriotic and still be critical of your own country right? Or has that deluded you. A prime example of this is Jesse Ventura. He is patriotic of the United States for its original values centered around the Constitution and Bill of Rights and was proud to serve in the Navy for his country. However he is very critical of the United States and believes the country has lost its way. Hates the fact that his country has lied to him about incidents such as the Gulf of Tonkin and the United States policies such as the way they stop and search people in airports and their justification of using torture methods such as waterboarding.

You can be patriotic and proud of your country and still be critical of it. If you don't see that then you are clearly blind to it.



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