Originally Posted by Makaveli
Ocean ghostwriting for Beiber doesn't establish anything other than Beiber's inability to write his own songs. Ocean's not the first to ghostwrite for him either.
If he can't write then he's a puppet with a voice. His only talent comes from his odd case of "woman's voice" which has to fade soon. Once his voice finally changes, and from what I know it already has, he's Aaron Carter #2. He's just very marketable to his demographic. He doesn't have any real, standout talent. If he's still this relevant in 5 years we'll re-examine him again, but his reign as media pop sensation will fade.
But Bieber has wrote his own songs and plays a variety of instruments.
So, not writing "all" of your own songs makes you a puppet?
Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Beyonce, Frank Ocean (Maylay helped him write for Channel Orange), Aaliyah, Elvis Presley and likely, 90% of all time pop artists would say otherwise.