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Old 07-22-2012, 09:52 PM   #1939 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Combat Analyst View Post
No, Austin was already becoming popular before he even got pushed. And yes I do think it matters, Orton & Sheamus are two top stars, Imagine what would happen if say TNA picked them up?
Austin as the ringmaster was a god damn nobody. It took WWE making a new persona for him that they wanted to push to catch on.

TNA has Hulk Hogan, Bischoff, Ric Flair (not now but for ages), Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy, Sting, Kennedy and the Dudleyz and they still pull low 1's in the ratings. Sheamus and Orton have never even drawn business in WWE, and Orton has peaked. 10 years in and he's still irrelevant as any kind of a draw. What are they gonna do in TNA? TNA could get Punk, Orton, Sheamus, Jericho, Daniel Bryan and Rey Mysterio at once and they still wouldn't move up because the company is helpless at promotion and investing their money into the show. Names on their own, with no hype machine are pretty much useless. If Hardy, as basically WWE's most over guy in 2009 jumping doesn't prove that, I don't know what will. The only people that might help are John Cena, The Rock, and maybe Brock Lesnar, maybe. On the other hand, if Vince bought TNA and really invested his time in it, the current TNA with the roster they have now, no names coming in from WWE, they'd be neck and neck with WWE in one year.
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Originally Posted by Mister Saint Laurent on Xavier Woods' Gimmick
Man, talk about giving a guy nothing to work with. Imagine you've been called up to tv and they basically say to you "You're well educated. (which apparently because of your skin color means that this is an incredible thing.) We can't believe that someone with your skin color has the level of education that you have, so your gimmick is just gonna be that we put you on tv and brag that you went to school. Cause that's basically the gimmick that they gave him, how much more racist could his gimmick have been? Am I missing something here? What was the reason that the people were supposed to get behind him, other than the company just saying "phht, well, he's...in school".

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