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Aces & Eights Discussion Thread

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#1 ·
I have it on very good authority that the leader of the Aces and 8's faction will be someone who has a real grudge against HH and Sting.

This person is also a keen biker and the factio Aces and 8's is being set up as a "Hells Angels" type faction.

Said person also made a comment recently to wait for some big news from him in the future!!



Answer is
 
#287 ·
Re: Who would you like in Aces and 8s.

I have a feeling Eric Young is involved. His promo with ODB was a little odd. He was gone for a little bit getting stuff for here and got sidetracked, I forgot what he said for. But then he left again to go get the stuff and they did an attack. I don't know, I just see him being involved somehow.
 
#331 ·
Re: Who would you like in Aces and 8s.

I have a feeling Eric Young is involved. His promo with ODB was a little odd. He was gone for a little bit getting stuff for here and got sidetracked, I forgot what he said for. But then he left again to go get the stuff and they did an attack. I don't know, I just see him being involved somehow.
He would fit as Jarretts inside man and groups VP. Would be nice to see serious Eric and for him to get a nice push out of it.
 
#288 ·
Re: Who would you like in Aces and 8s.

EY was very good as a heel in world elite.

But out of the current roster, I personally feel they could throw a curve ball and have James Storm revealed as the leader of Ace's and 8's.

1) They attacked Roode at the end of the show.
2) They attacked AA (current WHC)
3) They attacked 2 legends Hogan and Nash.

For shock value having James Storm as leader of Ace's and 8's would be immense.
 
#289 ·
James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Now hear me out this is a mad theory of mine, but James Storm is to be revealed as the leader of Aces and 8s.

1) They attacked his opponent Angle in the first match on Impact this week.
2) Storm gave a scathing in ring segment on Aces and 8s (when they had zero involvement with Storm) at the beginning of the show (throwing people off the scent by Storm)
3) At the end of the show they attacked Roode (whom Storm has beef with - storyline) and the current WHC whom Storm hopes to face.
4) Storm is a ******* most biker gangs are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
5) The biggest storylines involve big faces turning heel ie Hogan turning on Sting and Savage to join the NwO ie Hall and Nash in WCW.
 
#290 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Now hear me out this is a mad theory of mine, but James Storm is to be revealed as the leader of Aces and 8s.

1) They attacked his opponent Angle in the first match on Impact this week.
2) Storm gave a scathing in ring segment on Aces and 8s (when they had zero involvement with Storm) at the beginning of the show (throwing people off the scent by Storm)
3) At the end of the show they attacked Roode (whom Storm has beef with - storyline) and the current WHC whom Storm hopes to face.
4) Storm is a ******* most biker gangs are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
5) The biggest storylines involve big faces turning heel ie Hogan turning on Sting and Savage to join the NwO ie Hall and Nash in WCW.
Stereotypes are fun.
 
#302 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

******** are awesome.

Give me a ******* anyday of the week over some wannabee gangster piece of filth.


Dude, that comment was wrong. Straight up.

Back to the subject at hand, I think that Storm being the leader of Aces and Eights would be too predictable and will mess up many months of storyline, especially a storyline when a wrestler has gained tons of fan support. If a leader has to be revealed, why not somebody that needs a new gimmick?

Personally, I think it's Joey Ryan.
 
#294 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Either way Storm fits into this group.
At BFG it will be Sting, Hogan and Storm vs 3 members of Aces and 8s, I predict Storm will turn on Sting and Hogan and be revealed as the leader of said group.
Bobby Roode vs James Storm - 3 stages of hell?
 
#296 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Interesting idea.
With Aries becoming the number one face in the company, a place that was being saved for Storm post BFG (imo), Storm is kind of in limbo as to where he stands, there are way too many top level babyfaces and only 2 heels so it makes sense for someone to turn soon and this would make an interesting storyline.

The only problem would be for me how would you blow off the Storm/Roode feud? with Aces and Eights attacking Hogan/Sting/Angle/Aries/Gut Check they are pretty much guarenteed to be heel and there is no way they should even think about turning Roode so it would be heel v heel which wouldn't work in this instance IMO

Cool idea though but I'm still hoping it's Jarrett
 
#297 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Shock value and TNA have a abundance of face main event wrestlers at the moment, Jeff Hardy, RVD, Kurt Angle, AA, Sting, Samoa Joe, Aj styles and very few main event top heels Roode, errrrrmmm Roode and Bully Ray.


Plus if aces and 8s are anything like other stables dx, NwO, etc then Storm could play a tweener role, the cool heel.
 
#298 · (Edited)
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Shock value and TNA have a abundance of face main event wrestlers at the moment, Jeff Hardy, RVD, Kurt Angle, AA, Sting, Samoa Joe, Aj styles and very few main event top heels Roode, errrrrmmm Roode and Bully Ray.


Plus if aces and 8s are anything like other stables dx, NwO, etc then Storm could play a tweener role, the cool heel.
Tbh If tna were gonna turn a Big time face heel to be the leader of Aces&Eight I would much rather have it be Jeff Hardy Yes theres theres no real reason for him to be it but they could say that the last time he was the Anti-Christ he was World Champ and thats what he wants now so he do whatever it take
 
#300 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Shock value almost killed TNA, storm and roode still need a last match.
And why waste a storyline on someone that is already established in the upper midcard?
Give it to jay bradley or wes brisco, one of them can be the vice president of the gang and get over easily.
 
#333 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Shock value almost killed TNA, storm and roode still need a last match.
And why waste a storyline on someone that is already established in the upper midcard?
Give it to jay bradley or wes brisco, one of them can be the vice president of the gang and get over easily.
I agree, give it to a younger guy with the head being a semi active like jarret that can give credibility to the group
 
#303 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Why would Double J be the leader of Aces. He's teaming with Kurt in AAA and the Aces just took out Kurt. Leads me to think something different.
It's different, abyss was main eventing RKK and AAA while joseph park was looking for him.
That really don't mean anything.
 
#304 ·
Who Was And Wasn't Part of Aces and 8's Last Night; More News on the Group

Mike Knox was part of the Aces and 8's group last night joining Isaiah Cash and Wes Brisco. TNA has been rotating members in and out to keep it harder to guess who is in the group. D'Lo Brown played a member of the group last night.

Cliff Compton (aka Domino) isn't signed to TNA at this point and doesn't look to be part of the group yet.

Names being associated with the group at this time include Isaiah Cash, Mike Knox, Chris Masters, Cliff Compton, Jay Bradley, Wes Briscoe and Jeff Jarrett.
PWI
 
#305 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Bradley, Briscoe, Gallows are all virtune unknowns in the world of TNA, so while they may well be in TNA they will not be revealed as the brains behind the group.

It makes perfect sense for Storm to be the leader, up to now Ace's and 8s have attacked faces apart from Roode who is a heel, now why would they attack a heel???? Answer: because said heel conned Storm out of the championship.

Absolutely no reason why 2 heels cannot feud with each other, especially when one heel has a good reason to detest the other heel.

So this would still enable Storm and Roode to get a big payoff to the feud.

Of course in the long run with both Roode and Storm being heels, once Storm defeat Roode to end the feud and win the WHC (When Roode regains it - which he will from AA), could lead to the reformation of Beer Money in TNA (with Storm and Roode both being heels, I mean the tag division in TNA is pretty poor at the moment).
 
#309 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Bradley, Briscoe, Gallows are all virtune unknowns in the world of TNA, so while they may well be in TNA they will not be revealed as the brains behind the group.

It makes perfect sense for Storm to be the leader, up to now Ace's and 8s have attacked faces apart from Roode who is a heel, now why would they attack a heel???? Answer: because said heel conned Storm out of the championship.

Absolutely no reason why 2 heels cannot feud with each other, especially when one heel has a good reason to detest the other heel.

So this would still enable Storm and Roode to get a big payoff to the feud.

Of course in the long run with both Roode and Storm being heels, once Storm defeat Roode to end the feud and win the WHC (When Roode regains it - which he will from AA), could lead to the reformation of Beer Money in TNA (with Storm and Roode both being heels, I mean the tag division in TNA is pretty poor at the moment).
Stop with the russo booking, heel storm vs heel roode makes no sense.
Reformation of Beer Money? Are you crazy? Why lose 2 main eventers after all the hard work building them?
 
#306 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

I don't think it is Storm. I mean, it just doesn't seem to be in his character storyline, but this could be a good heel turn for him if you think about it.
 
#307 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

It would make to have someone in the group to have a chance for the title at BFG, since they're involving the world champ in the attacks. Another twist you could throw in there is Joe being in involve and he goes to BFG to face A Double and they could play these guys are the guys who kidnapped him last year. Last thing that came to me was that Joe started wearing his Nation of Violence shorts the week after these guys "debuted"
 
#310 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

It would make to have someone in the group to have a chance for the title at BFG, since they're involving the world champ in the attacks. Another twist you could throw in there is Joe being in involve and he goes to BFG to face A Double and they could play these guys are the guys who kidnapped him last year. Last thing that came to me was that Joe started wearing his Nation of Violence shorts the week after these guys "debuted"
I think that Joe should be behind it, it would make a good heel turn for him. I just wonder who is truly behind it?
 
#308 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

When you consider the natural progression of the James Storm storyline this is what everyone expects to happen.

1) Roode regains WHC from AA
2) Storm wins BFG series
3) Storm faces Roode at BFG.
4) Storm wins WHC as a face.
5) My view now at point 5 - Storm becomes Stale as face WHC and loses all momentum once his big win over Roode is achieved.

Now pesonally I think TNA are aiming for the following

1) Roode regains WHC vs AA
2) Samoa Joe wins BFG series and faces Roode at BFG
3) HH and Sting enlist Storm to face Aces and 8s at BFG
4) Roode defeats Joe at BFG
5) Storm turns on HH and Sting at BFG - revealed as brains behind Aces and 8s
6) Jarretts revealed to be in Aces and 8s
7) Aces and 8s/Storm/Jarretts takeover TNA
8) Storm defeats Roode for WHC and ends feud with Roode.
 
#311 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Heel vs Heel does work in wrestling, face vs face does not work.
So Heel Storm Vs Heel Roode would tell the same story as both guys would still hate each other's guts.

Heel Storm for costing him his WHC and Roode for the beatdowns which Storm and Ace's and 8s give to him

No reason why 2 heels should "love" each other they can still be rivals and given that TNA only has one true heel maineventer Roode, Bully Ray is not main event -midcard at best, TNA need to create a new heel main eventer.

Jeff Hardy - Been there done that - did not work
Sting - Does not work
Mr Anderson - already been there
RVD - in twilight of his career no reason for him to become a heel
Joe - A lone wolf
Jeff Jarrett - no surprise element in Jarrett
Angle - Just turned face, too soon for a heel turn from him

When you consider the facts - it sticks out like a sore thumb, James Storm is behind Aces and 8s and will be revealed as the leader of said group.
 
#315 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

That's definitely a possibility. I also thought it was strange how he came out and talked about them even though he wasn't at all involved with them yet.
That is exactly what I though, Storm had zero involvement with Aces and 8s yet he cut a big promo on them before his BFG match vs Angle which conviently involved Angle being beaten down by Aces and 8s in the back.

In fact the beat down occured well before Storm announced he wanted to face Angle and before Angles music started, almost as if Aces and 8s had prior information from someone that Storm wanted to face Angle in the BFG series.

To end the show, if Aces and 8s were a true heel group (simply destroying faces ie Sting, HH and AA) it would have been easy for them to leave the ring and let heel Roode finish off AA yet Roode a wrestler whom Storm hates is then attacked by Aces and 8s.

Easy to work out if you take the time,
 
#316 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Samoa Joe would be so much better since his character is stale as fuck.
Nation of violence come back with decent booking and without that stupid weapon.
 
#317 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Samoa Joe would be so much better since his character is stale as fuck.
Nation of violence come back with decent booking and without that stupid weapon.
Samoa Joe is a lone wolf, never runs with the pack.
He is SC Steve Austin type character, running a heel group or being in one would not fit Joes MO.
Look at his tenure in MEM for example.
 
#332 · (Edited)
Re: Who would you like in Aces and 8s.

Joey Ryan
John Morrison
DH Smith
Brian Kendrick
The Young Bucks
Johnny Spade (Ovw World Champ)
Cliff Compton
Luke Gallows
Mike Knox
Jay Bradley
Jay Lethal
Chris Master

Another random that would be cool to see in this group that has the Southern personal is Adam Pearce.

Also I thought about like a Colt Cabana, the reason I thought about him is because going to Cliff Compton/Luke Gallows pictures on twitter Colt seems pretty close with both of them.

I could see Compton, Bradley, Knox and Gallows but here's a wildcatd..... Eddie Kingston.
Eddie Kingston would be cool to see.

Question for everyone would this be a good way for TNA to bring like The Briscoes they can play the Southern bikers gimmick if they had too.
 
#324 ·
Re: Who would you like in Aces and 8s.

its intriguing that's for sure because we don't even know where the angles going let alone who is participating.
 
#325 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Does everyone remember after Lockdown James Storm put the following message on twitter

“Emotional time in my life after Lockdown. Need time to think about what I need to do and will not be making live events. I apologize.”


Approx 1 - 2 months off, TNA always think ahead (they do now) when they are booking.

SO questions what was James Storm doing in that time?

Planning,formulating a strategy?

Aces and 8s?

With what we saw in the last Impact, Storm could well turn heel and be the leader on Aces and 8s.

You need to look back at old impacts to see the subtle hints TNA are leaving (as the one above).
 
#356 ·
Re: James Storm as leader of Aces and 8s

Does everyone remember after Lockdown James Storm put the following message on twitter

“Emotional time in my life after Lockdown. Need time to think about what I need to do and will not be making live events. I apologize.”


Approx 1 - 2 months off, TNA always think ahead (they do now) when they are booking.

SO questions what was James Storm doing in that time?

Planning,formulating a strategy?

Aces and 8s?

With what we saw in the last Impact, Storm could well turn heel and be the leader on Aces and 8s.

You need to look back at old impacts to see the subtle hints TNA are leaving (as the one above).
:lmao

He was spending time with his family and doing some soul-searching not conspiring against people within the company.
 
#326 · (Edited)
Re: Aces and Eights will strike again tonight BUT...

I know people are saying "Joey Ryan's personality doesn't fit with this group", but that doesn't necessarily mean the personality and look he had in the Gut Check is what we are going to see in this angle. He hasn't always played this 70s porn star looking weirdo. Look at these picture for example:



He hasn't always looked like a complete idiot. He's a good worker and a good promo. Its just his gimmick should never be on a mainstream show, because it looks so small time. Maybe him in the group (not as the leader, because that would be insane) would do him the world of good. The last person Dixie, Sting and Hogan would be expecting in a gang of bikers would be the porno looking dude who wasn't fit enough to win gut check.

There is rumours (based on the fact that he follows them on twitter) that D'Lo Brown is a member of this group. Afterall, someone is letting these guys into the building? And D'Lo is never on the scene when Simon Diamond and Al Snow are helping guys back to the locker room after the attacks.
 
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