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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: New York
Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread
World Heavyweight Championship: Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus - **
Randy Orton vs. Kane - **3/4
Intercontinental Championship: Cody Rhodes vs. The Big Show - **1/4
Kelly Kelly & Maria Menounos vs. Beth Phoenix & Eve - **1/4
Hell in a Cell: The Undertaker vs. Triple H - ****1/4
Team Teddy vs. Team Johnny - ***
WWE Championship: CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho - ***3/4
John Cena vs. The Rock - ***1/2
My feelings are about the same, although I did enjoy the event a lot more now.
-In a strange way, I think it was better that the WHC match was so short. Had it been an actual match, given the apathy towards the buildup and focus on other matches, it probably would have only gotten 8-10 minutes (if that). DB simply not being ready and being blind-sided, to me anyway, maintains the importance of the title, offers a great surprise, and keeps the feud going. And as everyone saw, Bryan took Sheamus to the limit at ER, which shows what he can do when he's not surprised. Of course, in a perfect world, this match would have been given a proper buildup and 10-20 minutes to go wild. But I had no problem with this being a squash.
-The Orton/Kane series has done little for me. I just don't think they gel. There's just something through the motions about these matches. I should love them, I just don't.
-Show/Cody was entertaining for the time it got.
-The divas match was surprsingly not bad at all. Entertaning given that they go 7 minutes.
-UT/HHH is the best match of the year (so far). They start by brawling around the cell, then I love the callback to the spinebuster on the steps, UT powering out of the hell's gate. The booking with HBK wanting to call the match out of pity, UT locking him in the move, the double-team scm and pedigree, them reaching for their weapons, all of it...amazing. I never thought 30 minutes could go by so quickly.
As someone who loved their match last year, I honestly never thought they could come close. I'm one of those who thought that the HBK match at WM 26 was a far cry from 25 and assumed the rematch will fall short. I was wrong. This is a great rematch, a great continuation of the match from 27, but it also works on its own. I love this story comes full circle with UT getting his revenge.
As for everyone who's unsure of what "End of an Era" means...It means this will be the last time you see two major attitude era guys against each other. The last four wms have had UT/HHH and UT/HBK matches, HBK/Flair (which is connected to this arc).
To me, it's just 1/4 star short of WM 27, simply because UT had to get his revenge, so the double team move, while amazing, was not quite as compelling as HHH's tombstone. Still, a great series and the best match of the year.
-Team Teddy vs. Team Johnny is fun, plain and simple.
-Punk/Jericho really suffers from an awkward start. I tried to rationalize Punk's previous feud with Ace for the sudden stip, and Jericho trying to get him dq-ed...but I still don't like it. This feud started off as "who's the best in the world," and just collapsed into some really lame "your dad's a drunk, blah blah blah" business.
This match should have been kept pure. You could have a title match with a serious grudge, and not add stupid gimmicks. Look at Cena/Batista at WM 26. This late addition stipulation was not what the match should be.
However, once Y2J realizes that isn't going to work, and they just wrestle...the match is great. It's crisp, exciting, technical, and I love the finishing stretch. Punk lowering his head to avoid those kneeshots from Jericho at the end is realistic and cool. At least it finishes on a high note, but the beginning is too awkward.
-Funny how expectations can change how you view the quality of a match. For a match announced a year in advance, build up heavily, promoted as the biggest match of all time...it's a letdown.
Having watched it for a second time, without any of that hype, remembering that letdown, and just looking at it simply as the ME of WM, I very much enjoyed it.
The match is simple. Very simple. It's reminiscent of Cena's matches with Orton in that they're exciting but play it safe. There are some very nice surprises, like Cena turning the people's elbow into an stf attempt, catching Rock with an FU, and so on.
They both clashed nicely, the match was never boring, and strangely enough, I'm glad they went 30 minutes. Given the year-long build, 20 minutes just wouldn't have sufficed, even if the match was great. This is definitely the best WM ME since 24 or 23.
I wish Rocky hadn't kind of fucked up the RB at the end. That bothers me more than him winning. Which still smarts.
The lesson learned to me is this: NO match should be announced a year in advance. NO match can live up to all this hype. Punk/Cena was announced a month in advance and they did more with the build and match then Rock/Cena did in a year.
To me, you can announce a match that far in advance, build it up, show a TV special on USA, have rappers perform for them, all in the effort to make the match feel special, but the match is only going to feel special...if it is. It felt like just a good WM main event, nothing more. Ignore the hype, look at the competitors, remember it's just a wrestling match, and you should enjoy it. I did.
Solid WM. As I always say, I would have liked to have seen more depth in the card. 15 minutes for the WHC, more time for Show/Cody, better backstage segments. The few they had were just weak. Still, a very entertaining show, made more entertaining now by the fact that I'm not expecting the main event to be the second coming.
The Top Matches of 2013 (**** and higher)
1. No. 1 Contender's Match for the WWE Championship: John Cena vs. CM Punk - Monday Night RAW - February 25 - ****1/2
2. No Disqualification Match: CM Punk vs. Brock Lesnar - ****1/2
3. WWE Championship: The Rock vs. John Cena - WrestleMania XXIX - ****
4. The Undertaker vs. CM Punk - WrestleMania XXIX - ****