The following video has leaked online, although as to what the purpose is, I can't yet tell you. It features Mick Foley being confronted for what "his generation" did to the wrestling business by WWE developmental talent Dean Ambrose, who had a dark match last night at the Raw taping
A bit of an odd one. Is this legit beef Ambrose has with Foley or worked? If it's the latter then can we read into it that Ambrose will be moving up to the main roster pretty sharpish? Seems a bit too random.
Could Ambrose get onto the main roster and straight into a feud with Foley?
(ps, apologies if thread has already been created, I can't see any threads in the General WWE section due to forum problems)
EDIT: Here is a great recap of the feud so far for those that don't want to read through 20+ pages of us all marking out like little kids. Credit to Beatles123 for this:
It started with that vid. Since then, he's been trying to make Foley be exposed as the cause of, as he puts it, "A lost generation" trying to emulate Foley and getting hurt, as well as Dean himself. He had been through countless deathmatches in CZW and injured his body, as well as seeing his friends not survive because of it.
He has posted vids of people injuring themselves doing backyard wrestling and such, as well as posting pica of his scarred body and making it known that he was being told by WWE to go home when he was arriving to debut because of Foley. He feels he's holding him down like HE'S a criminal when Foley is the same thing.
Foley does not want any part of it because Ambrose would not show him respect and not mention his children. in addition to Regal telling Mick to be careful due to his psychological mindgames, Ambrose counters by saying he never did mention them, but Foley IS blinding them to reality. Foley says he can't get into this like Cactus Jack did in 1995 with his "Cane Dewy" promo. not at his age and not with someone he feels can seriously take liberties in the ring. Ambrose mournes the loss of Foley's "Testicular Fortitude" and calls him, in terms he can understand, "The cowardly lion of WWE"
But not your typical camp gay character, he should be a sick twisted guy who just happened to have a past with another wrestler. Could it work? If this isn't PG for WWE, maybe they could just imply it. I think it would be a fresh idea.
But not your typical camp gay character, he should be a sick twisted guy who just happened to have a past with another wrestler. Could it work? If this isn't PG for WWE, maybe they could just imply it. I think it would be a fresh idea.
I think the best way for his character to develop would be as a modern day Roddy Piper.
As a gay wrestler he would instantly cause heat, and not the good type. Could you imagine the flak WWE would get if they had a homosexual doing hellish things? Those who don't understand wrestling, such as the Internet bloggers etc, wouldn't understand they would just see WWE wanting kids to boo a gay guy.
It's not massively fresh after Golddusts original mannerisms, and I don't think it would work as well.
I could see Ambrose as a stalker obsessed with the object of his affections. But the other guy would constantly rebuff him because he's either in the closet or straight. I can see him saying things like, "Don't live anymore of these archaic lies. Embrace your true self and be free with me."
Only thing is what happens after the angle with his ex lover is over? He becomes just another guy on the roster, and it's just swept under the rug like it never happened?
I could see Ambrose as a stalker obsessed with the object of his affections. But the other guy would constantly rebuff him because he's either in the closet or straight. I can see him saying things like, "Don't live anymore of these archaic lies. Embrace your true self and be free with me."
Only thing is what happens after the angle with his ex lover is over? He becomes just another guy on the roster, and it's just swept under the rug like it never happened?
It gets him over as a sicko and makes people take him seriously. I can only imagine how awesome Ambrose's character would be in TV-14. Just imagine after a clinic on PPV, Ambrose covered in blood and then planting the kiss of death on someone before hitting the finisher. It would be something you would see in the movies but I'm sure it would get a ton of complaints so WWE would never do something like that these days.
Just make Ambrose a rebellious psychopath who does things that the majority of wrestlers and fans would never do. He'll get over on that merit. No need to add something like that that could hinder his progress if ever to be taken seriously.
Just make Ambrose a rebellious psychopath who does things that the majority of wrestlers and fans would never do. He'll get over on that merit. No need to add something like that that could hinder his progress if ever to be taken seriously.
That's nothing new though. Having a serious character who just happens to be gay would be a fresh idea. And I can't think of anyone to play a rebellious gay psychopath than Dean Ambrose.
I don't see how it would tarnish his progress to be taken seriously considering the things WWE could have him do if they went full on with it.
But it isn't needed for Ambrose just to be controversial. Punk's character has been done before but as long as you present fresh and different from others then there is no problem to recycle and reuse characters/storylines. That's what wrestling has always been.
Maybe the gimmick could work on anybody but I don't think it would really do well for a guy like Ambrose.
No. It would just be heavily implied that he's gay. They would talk about their sketchy past and how Ambrose wants revenge on him. At the PPV, he could plant one on him, not in the camp way like Goldust and Rico, but in a sick and twisted way to get in his head or whatever.
You often see characters like these in soap operas and movies. if they really want him to be edgy and rebellious, I think this is a good way to go about it. They would need to make sure that they don't turn him into a stereotype. Personally I wouldn't even reference the storyline after it's finished. It would just be a way to introduce Ambrose and show what he's all about.
Is it normal that he's having every dark match on TV tapings for like a month now? I just hope he gets a memorable finisher and not that knee trembler.
I would use Foley's DDT but maybe modernize it so when he destroys Foley in their feud, he can steal it as an insult (homage) to him. Same with Regal and the Rega Stretch once they feud maybe.
^^^That's exactly why a character like that couldn't be booked for Ambrose. Because WWE doesn't know how to book revolutionary, controversial, and deep layered characters like that anymore. You know what, people called Golddust gay. No he wasn't. He was just aggressively feminine in how he presented himself and was as materialistic as any other person, hence the name. He also made people make the assumption that he was gay as a mental way to fuck (no pun intended) with his opponents and eventually beat him. His feud with Razor Ramon is a perfect example. That's how great WWE creative USED to be. They never led you to believe that he was what the people assumed he was.
WWE can't do that now, especially with a character such as you imply.
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