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post #2108 of (permalink) Old 04-06-2012, 07:17 PM
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Re: SPOILER THREAD FOR Game of Thrones (TV series discussion)

Yeah Mace does think highly of himself and comparing him to Cersei is pretty valid really. Olenna has better control of him than Tywin does of Cersei, but then again Cersei is in a much more prominent position. I never meant Mace wasn't playing, even if that's what I said, he's just not the Tyrell in charge. Cersei outlasted Tywin, Tyrion, and Kevan. She's the one now. Jaime is pretty adept when he wants to be, but he's Kingsguard atm and riding to his apparent death. Only time will tell how Cersei turns out. I have to think she'll fail due to her history, but GRRM has a way of pulling off the old swerve.

Cersei is far more influential than Mace though, even if she's had a severe negative effect for the Lannisters.

Stannis had made allies with Jon Snow. That was a good move, but it was really Mel and Davos that got that ball rolling (and Samwell heavily influenced Jon becoming Lord Commander). He also got White Harbor via Davos as well. I don't think Stannis is that great. I did say what he's done he owes much if not all to Davos. As for Stannis being snowed in, plenty of competent leaders have had this happen to them in reality. He has no control over this. I also seem to remember him making a deal with Tycho Nestoris. That's a very powerful ally to have, probably his most powerful ally.
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