Raw on 4/9 did a 3.10 rating and 4.29 million viewers. The show was third for the night on cable. The show did a 2.4 in Males 12-17, 2.7 in Males 18-49, 1.0 in Girls 12-17 and 1.1 in Women 18-49 with a 69.3% male skew. It was down 21% from the 5.46 million viewers of the week after Mania show last year, and last year there was no bombshell along the lines of the Brock Lesnar return on the night after Mania show.
In the segment-by-segment, Brodus Clay & Santino Marella vs. Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger lost 99,000 viewers.
Backstage with Laurinaitis with Miz an Cena, Marella looking for the Three Stooges and R-Truth vs. Cody Rhodes gained 255,000 viewers.
Lord Tensai vs. Yoshi Tatsu lost 415,000 viewers.
The mic work between C.M. Punk and Chris Jericho in the top of the hour segment gained 379,000 viewers to a 3.19.
Punk vs. Henry and the post-match with Jericho pouring beer all over Punk, as well as the quick Del Rio vs. Ryder match lost 169,000 viewers.
The Three Stooges in-ring segment lost 240,000 viewers and was the low point of the show at 2.90.
The Brock Lesnar interview gained 423,000 viewers.
And the Cena vs. Otunga match with Lesnar run-in gained 301,000 viewers, which is a very weak overrun number, finishing at 3.42.
Was I the only one laughing tonight during the main event tonight, when all the good guys start running down to the ring and you see Khali, in the midst, walking at a snails pace to the ring? This guy mobility is laughable, even if he gets a pop from the crowd sometimes, they seriously need to get rid of him already.
Funny how they're almost below 4 million and it's not even September. All that without "The 3 HOURS EXTRAVAGANZA!!", which is going to be the biggest bomb of all time. Yes, they will do some extra ad revenue for a few months but in the long run, they're going to lose more and more viewers in monthly average to the point where it's irreversible. WWE is officially WCW 2000 now, in every way, from fucked up scripts, to horrendous business decisions, to writing the show minute before air time etc. Hourglass.
The promo would be great I am sure, but what would it be for/about would be my question. Flair's great, but in small doeses now, IMO. I wouldn;t really want to see him back in a full-time on-air role.
Wait, didn't they just sign Flair's daughter?
Hey maybe Vince can finally do the incest angle he wanted to with Steph :Vince
The rating will be the worst of the year so far, so don't worry about that Brye, but I don't think the change you want is going to make it any better...Bring back Rey, Henry and put Orton in a real program(although they're saving him for the Sheamus Summerslam feud), plus the great work Show is doing, and maybe this can change something until Brock is coming back.
LOL@Hogan tactics(he also did it with the NBA on the TNT timeslot), the guy is a master politician. I respect him for his manipulation ability alone.
The rating will be the worst of the year so far, so don't worry about that Brye, but I don't think the change you want is going to make it any better...Bring back Rey, Henry and put Orton in a real program(although they're saving him for the Sheamus Summerslam feud), plus the great work Show is doing, and maybe this can change something.
Orton/Sheamus should be good but I'm not sure what Henry will do. Afraid he'll be lost in the shuffle. As for Rey, can't wait till he returns regardless of what he's doing. Show is good as the heel but I feel like it's making too many dominant forces in Show, Tensai, Ryback, Brodus (even if he got beaten up by Show) and potentially Henry again. Although I guess that doesn't fare well for Henry.
Before people do that whole "it's the summer!" thing this is actually one of the worst ratings in history for the show and the lowest since september 2011. Before they do the whole "memorial day" thing it was 3.1 last year and 3.2 the year before.
So question is why has the show lost so many viewers?
No simple answer to that but one definate one is Punk cannot draw as champion. In his 7month+ reign the numbers have died. Look at his segmant numbers and your see most of them actually lose numbers. Sometimes quite a lot.
As I said on monday the company needs a big overhaul. The 3hr numbers are going to be brutal.
I'm glad the ratings are this bad, Raw has been terrible and i hope the ratings continue to do as bad or drop even more, maybe then the WWE will actually start to make some improvements.
Are people really blaming CM Punk for it? He's not even the main event at the moment John Cena is. Low ratings aren't due to any particular wrestler it's because the product as a whole sucks.
The WWE is stale and behind the times, it's as simple as that.
I know exactly why Punk/Bryan/Kane lost viewers it's because of the 2 or 3 commercial breaks before, during and after the match so it does hurt the ratings that's why I don't watch it live anyway. They should treat them carefully they're not the biggest draws so its a stupid move from the WWE. I bet Punk/Johnny gained viewers not just because of johnny it will be because of Punk too. Punk mostly gains viewers from segments. Check this it proves my point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm-Y1PLB4wc
You got a point these guys were given about 15 minutes and about 2 or 3 commercial breaks. I say a promo between them will draw more than a 15 minute match with 3 commercial breaks in between. Plus it was memorial day and the play offs and that History channel show doing big numbers. You got to factor all these thing into the rating. Also Punk vs Bryan hasn't been the main focus of RAW at all or have raised intensity in their feud.
The NBA playoffs featured some of the leagues most marketable players in the 1st game of their series (Lebron james, Dwayne Wade, paul pierce, & kevin garnett) it was also a decent game as well.
Then you have the surprise of Hatfields & McCoys on the history channel, which I don't think anyone believed would be such a big TV hit.
Those factors play a bigger role than anything.
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Imo WWE needs to give their heels more creative freedom, Bully Ray smokes Johnny Ace and Vickie heat as if they're amateurs and they're the most over heels in WWE by far. It's hard to get over as a heel when all you're doing is cheating in matches, and going against faces and expect people to automatically boo that guy just because. The hilarious thing about Bully Ray is that he's been putting people over left and right, he almost never wins but he's still credible and it still means something going over him, a very rare combination. Kevin Steen reminds me of him too, he has a similar style, even small details such as taking Daveys mouth protection during their match adds to his heel work (lold at the "you sick fuck" chants).
And WWE needs to stop having faces be bland, guys like Austin Aries kept their characters even when turning without becoming boring/generic/phony, how hard is it for WWE to understand that a heel gets over, that by turning him that he would still remain over or grow even bigger if they just changed some small details instead of doing full character revamps and taking everything away from them that made them interesting in the first place.
I don't know if you're sarcastic or not but that's exactly why I don't like the internet fanbase. All slogans with no basic knowledge. Russo wasn't in the WWF since September 1999, Mae Young segment was in January 2000. I'm not talking about you specifically, no problem with you at all. Just hate the stereotype of this fanbase of who are "the DEVILS".
The Russo love always baffles me. His run in WWF was good - 97/98 was an awesome run, 99 was mostly garbage - but his time in WCW & TNA saw the quality drop drastically. WCW went to shit around the time Russo entered, and TNA became damn-near unwatchable (after a really strong 05/06). Since Russo's departure, TNA has made massive strides of improvement, and WWE became a much more consistent product in 2000.
Ratings can't be argued with though. Russo is a ratings god - but then, so are American Idol & Dsncing with the Stars.
The Russo love always baffles me. His run in WWF was good - 97/98 was an awesome run, 99 was mostly garbage - but his time in WCW & TNA saw the quality drop drastically. WCW went to shit around the time Russo entered, and TNA became damn-near unwatchable (after a really strong 05/06). Since Russo's departure, TNA has made massive strides of improvement, and WWE became a much more consistent product in 2000.
In 1999 the in-ring wrestling was mostly garbage with its mostly pathetic PPVS. But back then you had a reason to tune in to Raw the following week or sometimes the night after a PPV depending on how the show ended. Russo had nothing to do with the workrate. WCW was absolutely BORING and contrived TV before Russo showed up. Sid Viscous' "undefeated streak" was the big storyline at the time. Benoit, Eddie, Saturn, Malenko and Douglas were all being completely buried before Russo showed up. Things got better and more interesting, but the problem was he was given 100% total control over everything and it soon came to bite them. TNA there were some good moments with him having some more power especially in 2008-2009.
Re: Ratings shock = Cena & Michael Cole in main event?
You'll never go broke thinking the American public is stupid. That Cole garbage is precisely the sort of stuff marks and casuals eat up with a fork and knife plus pound the table for seconds.
Its a shame Punk, Bryan and Ziggler matches are ratings poison because they are the best workers in the company.
You'll never go broke thinking the American public is stupid. That Cole garbage is precisely the sort of stuff marks and casuals eat up with a fork and knife plus pound the table for seconds.
Its a shame Punk, Bryan and Ziggler matches are ratings poison because they are the best workers in the company.
Exactly, I'm more of a casual fan and give me Cole over Punk or Bryan any day.. he can make a main event in one night with an awesome promo, giving emotions going into the match. Punk and Bryan are simply too stale and the majority of people aren't interested in technical wrestling. Me and all my friends loved last nights show and hated the boring overly long match between Punk-Bryan last week
Re: Ratings shock = Cena & Michael Cole in main event?
Like I said in the ratings thread, I expect the Cole/Cena match to do a huge gain, million +, Cole did a great job hyping the match all over the program and he was always a strong TV draw, besides they did exactly what can attract fans with the BBQ and all that. When he wants, he can do a decent job on commentary.
Vince is not going to be happy if the number doesn't go up next week. Yes, Cole/Cena and his return is a clear results from their panic over the disaster 2.7 rating because ratings are everything for them, especially now when it's the only major revenue that keeping them above water. What I don't understand is why the hell they said that Vince is opening the show? ridiculous thing to do because the first hour of the 3 hours is usually doing 2.4-2.5, it's probably a teaser like they did with the Lesnar contract signing and then they will do it in the main event, Vince is smarter than that.
I don't know how anyone can watch that main event last night and defend this product. If you are older than 10 and enjoyed that I feel for you.
This company does nothing but insult the fans week after week and yet some of the fans will defend this garbage to the death. It's horrible, it's not entertaining, the main eveners are not entertaining, there is no consistency.
It's good the ratings are awful, it will be the ONLY thing that sparks some change from this company.
The fact that the ratings have been awful is the reason that we got BBQ Sauce'd Cole Mainevent. That's how you fix the ratings.
You know? Michael Cole, the commentator who has significantly toned it down over the past few months, has been calling the matches, trying to put over the talent such as putting over Daniel Bryan a submission wrestler, has been 100% less insufferable and less of a bully than Jerry Lawler.
I don't think the internet excuse can work anymore. Streams and all that technological shit has been around for years now (7 at least) and yet the amount of money made off fans becomes lower and lower with each passing year. The show just sucks, I don't blame one person in specific, it's just uninteresting and horrible.
I wonder how low they can set the bar for ratings before they realize it's time to change something. A while back, 3.0 was considered 'panic zone' and now it seems like it's a miracle if the ratings reach that area.
With all that said, I have to laugh at Punk's bitterness in regards to the horrible ratings. Like most people that defend him, his response is "Why do you care?", which means no excuses.
The ironic part is that despite the internet streams and DVR, general TV viewership is MUCH higher than it was in the past, there's just far more people into medias than in the past as a whole. For example during the AE, a 5.0 meant 5million viewers, nowadays a 3.5 means around the same number of viewers on mondays which means that there's more people watching TV overall. You can say that DVRs and youtube affect all TV shows equally, so it creates an even playing field, you can't really make those excuses for WWE but pretend like other shows aren't affected by it.
I'm a regular viewer and the show is simply not interesting, the only thing that gets my interest is the Bryan/Punk/Kane storyline ( the only interesting storyline atm) and the ME and even that is getting my attention for all the wrong reasons. I lold how Ziggler went from becoming a badass one week to returning to the showoff gimmick on Monday for no reason, way to drop the ball WWE. VERY disappointing character progression, I guess WWE have no idea what to do with the poor guy now, I actually got slightly pissed at this since I wanted to see intense Ziggler more.
Streams existed in 2006-2007 and Raw ratings were in the 4s. It's NOT an excuse especially when the 2nd hour rating is down from the first. Didn't the Super Bowl get a 47.8 rating? Streams a-plenty back in February.
The product just sucks. It's too childish, bland and boring. The presentation is sterile. The format is too formulaic. The booking is absolutely moronic. Storylines are dropped and forgotten for no good reason. There's too much filler and pointless comedy. The same people(Cena) are always the focal point of the show. The star-power isn't there. The wrestlers aren't trying hard enough. It needs an overhaul because the ratings aren't going to jump to a 5 overnight.
What good would that do? Its still going to be cena all over the show.
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