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Re: International Matches Discussion Thread

Originally Posted by Jobbed_Out View Post
The other "Home nations" think that FIFA will strip them of their status if they have players represent team GB. I guess it shows how much people distrust FIFA as I'm sure they've said it won't harm each nations football independence.
Fifa have already said the olympics would effect the home nations in any way because they have their own league system set up and their own F.A's. They have also said they have no interest in having a Great Britain football side. (most likely due to money as you can always guareentee good ticket sales at N.Ireland (20,000+) and Scotland + Wales will usually get atleast 40,000.)

Originally Posted by Vader13 View Post
Pele is full of shit. Comes out with bollocks that Messi isn't great because he hasn't performed at a World Cup - does that mean Davor Suker is better than him? Says Maradona was one footed and had personal problems (no shit) and that means he can't be considered to be the best. Rooney isn't great because he doesn't score more goals, this coming from a man who's career goals came in the Brazilian league, which is probably at a better standard today. I've never seen the fuss about Pele, I doubt that he actually ever scored over a 1000 goals and that it was just fixed to look so either by him or by the Brazilian FA for their golden child; similar to what Romario attempted to do (either that or he includes goals he scored when he was a child). I also find it interesting that I've rarely seen professional players say that Pele is their favourite player and what got them into the sport; Cruyff, Maradona, van Basten, Platini all have been mentioned by top players, even the Brazilian Ronaldo seems to be more highly thought of than Pele in that sense.

Basically, Pele is a moron. Considering that I don't see him as the best ever, he's also an overrated one at that.
People dont like Pele because he never played in Europe. That is all.

His record is strange though. as it does include friendlies. few anomalies in the run best one is 1961

His official record Played 38 scored - 62. His year record played 74 scored 110.
So thats 48 goals in 36 friendlies. What club plays 36 friendlies.

Thats just his Santos record though. Official Games played - 656 scored 643
Complete santos record including friendlies - played - 1120 scored - 1033

NY Cosmos - Played 107 scored 64.

Brazil - Played 92 scored 77.

so in official games he's played 855 scored 784 which in itself is phemonimal.

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